Manners Maketh Man!

Agreed.

We've seen a lot of double-barrelled petulance too lately.

Nothing to do with recent posts, but I'm coming to the conclusion that arrogance is seen almost as a virtue nowadays....

Fredrik,

Speaking for myself, I know it is all too easy to scan posts if not an entire thread and jump to all kinds of conclusions as I filter what I understand through a collection of previously accumulated prejudices. It is also easy to scan, rather than read, one or two threads without reading the full history and again to jump to erroneous conclusions about what is really being said. It is easy to reply in a kind of short hand without taking much care over what I write and someones too easy to make a witty riposte at someone elses expense rather than take the time to make a balanced, well thought out reply. I try to make a firm decision to be responsible (it's all too easy to rattle off a negative post)and measure my words but often time is short and I can't be bothered. I must be careful not to turn this into a habit. I think we all should take the trouble to be a little more thoughtful in our responses and certainly a good deal more polite. Yes manners maketh man. We make our habits and then our habits make us.

Regards,

Erik

BOLLOCKS !!

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Originally posted by harry farthing:
BOLLOCKS !!

LOL. That is one way of looking at it.

harry

I,ve got to hand it to you, six posts and three of them abuse, how to win friends and influence people eh...

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Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:

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Originally posted by Steve Toy:
Agreed.

We've seen a lot of double-barrelled petulance too lately.

And too much jumping to conclusions.

Erik

You hit the nail on the head.

Person A posts something contentious, person B counters it, persons A, C and D reply to something that was not actually said, and the latecomers assume that, because A,C, and D are vociferous, they must be right.

The fact that A,C and D misrepresent posts from person B is drowned out by the self-righteous indignation.

Some people just make rude posts: some are man enough to apologise ( Nigel Cavendish, for example. )

M

Mike,

Yep, I've seen this happen more than a few times. What is the evidense for much of the assumptions made here? Sometimes I wonder if some people have truly read the posts they reply too. Such is life.

All the best,

Erik

BTW - did you write to NoTW? Did you get a reply?

Justyn

I make it 4 out of 6 ...............learn to count !, however one has to consider these 4 (o.k. now 5) posts in the contex of the dozen or so posts that the likes of Portly Mallard-Duck makes every night..............I don't mean to offend but some people take themselves far too seriously....is this a Naim thing ?

Justyn, harry farthing is a troll .

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Originally posted by AlexanderVH:
Justyn, harry farthing is a troll .

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Just to be polite.

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Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
Farting


Erik

I dd not write: a DPM-flavoured forum I browse through gave me the impression that the replies where pretty much standard.

Regards

Mike

Being caught in possession of NoTW is now an offence in PWRR circles punishable by severe beastings. I hope this spreads.

Folks,

This is looking good, but I'll refrain from answering just yet. I had rather hoped, however, that we might actually avoid plain rudeness in this Thread about politeness, for all that!

All the best from Fredrik

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Originally posted by Nime:

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Originally posted by AlexanderVH:
Justyn, harry farthing is a troll .

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Just to be polite.

No. But maybe my "is" is not your "is". My "is" is an "is" that can change into a "not anymore". It's not an "is" that can change into a "not really after all". There's the possibility of change. Innit?

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. . . severe beastings.

Erik - which animals do they use?

Steve

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Originally posted by Yo-yo Master:

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. . . severe beastings.

Erik - which animals do they use?

Steve

A beasting (definately not to be confused with a beating - which of course never happens in the British Army )is army punishment such as making someone run fully laded with a pack whilst shouting like a psycho at them. Officers don't get beasted they get an interview with the adjutant or worse an interview with the colonel. There are two types of interview - with coffee (to get a pat on the back) or without coffee (to get shafted). There are two types of interview without coffee - with lube or without)

As to your question 'which animals do they use' they use junior NCOs

Regards,

Erik

ps - I got beasted at Sandhurst. The colour sargeant said 'Sir, your men won't ever follow you, not even out of curiousty'. That hurt more than the 30 push ups I had to do with a GMPG on my back in a freezing puddle.

Trolling, arguments, name calling and general foul and abusive language have, sadly long been part of this, and other Forums. This used to be offset by a large amount of genuinely witty humour.

I've been reading and posting here for nearly 4 years (note to self: get a life), seen people come and go.

It's not so much fun round here any more, hence my own lower posting rate of late.

I agree, there is too much rudeness these days. That said, this forum isn't nearly so bad, in that regards as, for example, the Radio 3 one where barely a thread can go by without it degenerating into trolling, or a slanging match or somebody complaining how downmarket R3 has gone.....

That said, one of the reasons I spend most of my time here in the Music Room these days, is that most of the threads there (or at least the ones I post on) tend to be conducted in a nice polite fashion, though there have been some particularly lamentable exceptions (the Freddie Mercury thread, for example).

Sadly, rudeness is something of a fact of life these days. As, I'm afraid, is the inability of many to apologise when they say or do something wrong. I recently heard of the octogenarian wife of a famous conductor who was knocked over by a concert goer as he left, indeed I think he fell on her so badly she broke a number of bones. He then fled the concert hall without even pausing to apologise - so, a few bad words here and there aren't even nearly the worst of it.

regards, Tam

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Manners Maketh Man!

Frederik asks us to debate.....

I say NO, they don't.

Perhaps you ask "why?" (then again, perhaps you don't....)

But I'll tell you my view anyway.

Manners are made by real men. Real men invented the manners and real men live by them.

Cultivating good manners, no doubt, helps some to become men, eventually.

But real men are real men and the manners are inevitable and not a cultivated appendage.

IMHO of course

Cheers

Don

Please, if you would be so kind, as I hope it's not too much trouble and I most certainly wouldn't wish to offend any kind person here on this esteemed Forum, nor anywhere else that is as or perhaps not nearly so convivial - and don't take this the wrong way, but would you mind doing this very small thing for me, but don't get up unless you really want to as you've probably got better things to do than worry about my teensy-weensy spot of bother, and don't mind me, if you please but actually what I wanted to say was this...

Dear Don,

Nicely put if you will excuse the compiment! Maybe when any of us here are vexed by rudeness from others, we could merely completely ignore the rude posting, and then the more impolite members would get bored and gradually slough away. One can live in hope, though there seems to be a ready supply of new members who cannot resist a cheap jibe, so I guess that the battle for manners goes on, and on...

All the best from Fredrik

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We've seen a lot of double-barrelled petulance too lately.

glass houses and stones.