Round Earth Points 1.0

Posted by: Mike Sae on 17 January 2002

In homage to the J.Petrik's FEP scale, may I present the Round Earth Points scale:

Sources:

Is SACD your main source? Add 100 points

Do you use an off board DAC? Add 20 points

Is a tuner your *main* source? Deduct 30 points.

Is a turntable your *only* source? Subtract 30 points for missing out on all that exciting new technology.

Does it weigh more than 15 kilos? Add 5 points

50 kilos? Add 20

Are you unable to convert pounds to kilos? Add 15 points.

Is your turntable made in the UK? If yes subtract 20 points

Electronics:

Does your amp cost more than your source? Add 25 points

Does your amp generate >150 watts @ 8 ohm? Add 10 points

Add 30 for each tubed component, 40 of it’s a CDP.

Does your tube amp generate <10 watts? If yes, add 20

Does your preamp have a phase switch? If yes, add 30

Are any of your RCA jacks gold plated? Add 10 points

Add 10 for each fascia in brushed aluminium, champagne or chrome. Add an additional 10 for each casing in said finishes

Deduct 25 for each component in black.

Speakers:

Do your speakers cost more than your source? If yes, add 50. If no, subtract 50.

Are your speakers ported? If yes, add 15 points.

Are your speakers floorstanding? If yes, add 10 points for wanting bass. If no, deduct 10 points.

Are your speakers >93 db? If yes, add 25 points

What are the speaker cones made of? Add 35 for Kevlar, 15 for polypropylene, carbon fibre, or aluminum. Deduct 20 for paper or Bextrene.

Do you use a subwoofer? If yes, add 20 points. Add 50 points for each additional subwoofer.

Add 5 points for each 5 degrees of speaker toe-in
If speakers are poiting straight out, deduct 20 points.


Accessories:

Is your remote hewn from a solid billet of aluminum? If yes, add 10 points

Do your speaker cables cost more than your source? If yes, add 100 points
Do they employ network boxes? If yes, add an additional 50 points

Do your interconnects cost more than your source? If yes, add 100
Do they employ networks? Add an additional 50
Are they RCAs? Add an additional 100

Deduct 100 for using the stock interconnects.

Do you use a PLC? If yes, add 100 points

Add 15 points for each squidgy footer

Add 5 points for each cone.

Add 35 for each air bladder/ colostomy bag.

Add 25 if your rack contains marble

Subtract 20 points if your rack employs glass shelves.

If you recognized satirical quality of the previous question, deduct 30 points instead.

Add 10 points for each album you own by the following artists: Patricia Barber, Holly Cole, Keb Mo, Mike Oldfield, post-Police Sting, Diana Krall, The Eagles.

Subtract 15 points for each album you own by the following artists: XTC, King Crimson, Ken Boothe, Leftfield, Photek, Aphex Twin, Phish, Gang of Four.

[This message was edited by Mike Sae on FRIDAY 18 January 2002 at 18:01.]

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Posted on: 20 January 2002 by Martin Payne
Mike,

LOL - loved it!


quote:
Does your amp cost more than your source? Add 25 points

and

Do your speakers cost more than your source? If yes, add 50. If no, subtract 50.


What am I supposed to do, sell my CDS & buy an ML or Krell?

If I add my CDS, LP12, Denon tuner & Nak tape deck then they just edge out the speakers by about £100. I know, I know - not allowed.

I get 530 negative points, but my DBLs earn me +85, for a total of -445.

Music is +80 & -30, so I get a grand total of -395.

quote:
Add 15 points for each squidgy footer

I'm assuming my Base stuff doesn't count here. I'm in major doo-doo if it does!

quote:
Do you use a PLC? If yes, add 100 points

What on earth is a PLC?


Re-calculating my FEP2s I get 340.

Subtracting REPs from FEP2s I get a total of 735 Earth Points.

Interestingly, when my system had Isobariks instead of DBLs it gathered 35 more FEPs and 85 less REPs. It would have scored 855 EPs!

cheers, Martin


P.S. Time Out. Round Earth! Ehh???

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Giles Felgate
I came up with -525, but I am assuming Dukes of Stratosphere (2 vinyl, 1 CD) counts as XTC!

Giless

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Mike Sae
quote:
What am I supposed to do, sell my CDS & buy an ML or Krell?If I add my CDS, LP12, Denon tuner & Nak tape deck then they just edge out the speakers by about £100. I know, I know - not allowed.


Well, owning DBLs means you like bass no doubt. When Naim comes out with the 500 series CDP, perhaps your REP will balance out smile

quote:
I'm assuming my Base stuff doesn't count here. I'm in major doo-doo if it does!

I was thinking of aftermarket soft footers directly under the components, so base and QS ref owners are safe.

quote:
What on earth is a PLC?

Not even knowing what a PLC is must be worth some FEPs. Power Line Conditioner.

cheers,

mike

PS I'll be re-taking alot of my distorted pics soon by faffing with the zoom. Thanks for the tip, Martin.

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Mike in CO
Dr. E.,

You're correct, Bob & I live in 78-land, otherwise known as Colorado. Like Bob, I too have been fortunate to inherit quite a few stacks of shellac from grandparents, in-laws, etc. I also have a stepfather with an unending desire to collect and sell old junk. He buys from estates, and anything recorded or electronic (old wooden tube radios were my "thing" for a while), usually lands on my doorstep. He stopped recently, at my request, because I have no room to keep the stuff, and most of it was truly junk. I think I have about 300-400 78s. Most are the popular stuff of the day, hardly any classical. A handful of jazz, including some great Basie and Armstrong sides (two Hot Fives!), but no hidden jewels. Still fun to play now and then.


Bob E.,

So do you, like me, essentially give a percentage of your weekly income to Rick?

M

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Mike in CO
This may be a tangent, but...

Colorado is also home for Allan Sutton, one of three people considered to be "the experts" in the field of early recording technology, and music label discographies. His Web site, (<a href="http://www.mainspringpress.com" target="_blank">Mainspring Press</a> ), lists books he's authored (or co-authored) and is a tremendous resource for anyone interested. The depth of his knowledge on the subject astonishes me.

M

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Bob Edwards
Mike--

I used to essentially give a percentage of my income to Rick; but starting law school combined with my wife not working put an end to it. I also worked there for about 2 glorious years--probably the most fun I've ever had at work.

Didn't know about the 78 historian in CO--interesting stuff.

Cheers,

Bob

Posted on: 22 January 2002 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Sae:
Well, owning DBLs means you like bass no doubt. When Naim comes out with the 500 series CDP, perhaps your REP will balance out

Hey, don't forget the new pre-amp, too. The suggested price of the two together is more than my annual salary (before the tax-man gets his cut).

quote:
I was thinking of aftermarket soft footers directly under the components, so base and QS ref owners are safe.

Phew, thanks.

quote:
PS I'll be re-taking alot of my distorted pics soon by faffing with the zoom. Thanks for the tip, Martin.

Ah, glad it was something simple.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 23 January 2002 by Rico
-ve 575 REP's. I couldn't remember any more than five Sting albs... and which part of the penalty list was Brube on, anyway?

Gang of Four - Hard might not be serious GOF, but there you go.

My contribution to REP v2.0: Surely owning SBL's should be a -500 penalty, along with Kans at -600? wink

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Posted on: 23 January 2002 by Top Cat
I was doing so well, but the SPM jumped up and bit me on the arse. Bugger.

0 REPs, but -200 if you don't count the Nordost wink

TC '..'
"Girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a Muffin..."

Posted on: 27 February 2002 by Peter Stockwell
I just redid the tests and concluded that I'm positive on both scales! (FEP 200, REP 60), It was the Keb Mo, Patricia Barber & Sting that did me in!

Peter

Posted on: 27 February 2002 by Steve G
I'm now at -115 (gaining points for valves, squidgy footers on my turntable and owning a couple of Keb' Mo' Cd's).

Why does Keb Mo gain you round earth points and Leftfield lose them?

Why do valves gain you round earth points?

Regards
Steve

Posted on: 28 February 2002 by Mike Sae
quote:
Why does Keb Mo gain you round earth points and Leftfield lose them?


I accidentally bought a Keb Mo album once, and think of him as the Souless Wonder. The sort of blues you'd hear in an I-Mac commercial.

Leftfield has a tribal percussiveness about them that's funky as hell. They really shine through a Naim system. Of course, music taste is purely personal, but the bans mentioned seem to come up on the forum a fair bit.

quote:
Why do valves gain you round earth points?

General preconceptions that tubes are gooey, laid back image throwing devices. The Sonic Frontiers, BATs, C-Js and Jolidas I've heard certainly point to this. So, who makes some PRaTty tubes?

At any rate, the REP scale is just a bit of fun.

Posted on: 28 February 2002 by Alex S.
Mike,

Try listening to some Canaries.

Alex

Posted on: 28 February 2002 by David Quigley
Damn squidgy feet got me aswell