A sound for sore ears?
Posted by: Blueknowz on 04 March 2009
Test those ageing ears I can't hear anything above 19kHz ,but then I was 60 last Boxing Day 
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by Chris Kelly
Well I was 58 in January and you are doing a lot better than me!
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by Michael
61 here I can't hear higher than 14
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by JWM
Better than me Michael. 45 - years old, not kHz.
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by u5227470736789439
Link to a recent thread I started in the hifi room on this.
It got a huge number of replies and a massive general admission that tinnitus is widespread..
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4801938...942904817#1942904817
With these tones I can discern 15kHz as clearly pitched and audible, but 16 kHz is virtually inaudible. So slightly better than my results two or more weeks ago when I was full of cold!
No doubt hearing is like other general health issues, variable to some extent.
Hence the possibility of blaming the system [which it seems to me is far less likely to be significantly variable than an organic being capable of recovery from a state of ill-health] for a personal possition of seeming to hear badly!
ATB from George [47 and a quarter years old]
It got a huge number of replies and a massive general admission that tinnitus is widespread..
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4801938...942904817#1942904817
With these tones I can discern 15kHz as clearly pitched and audible, but 16 kHz is virtually inaudible. So slightly better than my results two or more weeks ago when I was full of cold!
No doubt hearing is like other general health issues, variable to some extent.
Hence the possibility of blaming the system [which it seems to me is far less likely to be significantly variable than an organic being capable of recovery from a state of ill-health] for a personal possition of seeming to hear badly!
ATB from George [47 and a quarter years old]
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by mikeeschman
near as i can tell george, if you can hear 15k, all of the music is making it into your brain. those upper partials are so close to each other, i don't see how they can add anything musical.
just look at the way a sound starts. on a musical instrument it rises rapidly from 0Hz to a stable pitch in a short period of time, forming the attack (i.e. articulation), so by 15K, the shape of the attack is established. (and all of the overtones that are capable of consonance lie below that.)
just look at the way a sound starts. on a musical instrument it rises rapidly from 0Hz to a stable pitch in a short period of time, forming the attack (i.e. articulation), so by 15K, the shape of the attack is established. (and all of the overtones that are capable of consonance lie below that.)
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by Mat Cork
I can hear 8 then nothing above it...luckily I have a constant high pitch whistling which is actually quite loud...so I'm not missing out on anything. Phew.
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear Mike,
I think it even leaves a bit of room for further quality reduction before [unknown] music becomes hard to comprehend!
Most pre-1945 78 records stopped at about 9.5 kHertz, and I find them quite enjoyable, though naturally not actually preferable to the ones that go up to 15 kHertz from after the War.
I think I could go quite, or even very[!] deaf and still enjoy music, because I am sure I would fill in the gaps with imagination!
Best wishes from George
I think it even leaves a bit of room for further quality reduction before [unknown] music becomes hard to comprehend!
Most pre-1945 78 records stopped at about 9.5 kHertz, and I find them quite enjoyable, though naturally not actually preferable to the ones that go up to 15 kHertz from after the War.
I think I could go quite, or even very[!] deaf and still enjoy music, because I am sure I would fill in the gaps with imagination!
Best wishes from George
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by mikeeschman
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:
I think I could go quite, or even very[!] deaf and still enjoy music, because I am sure I would fill in the gaps with imagination!
Best wishes from George
george, i am inclined to hunt you up a nice little wax cylinder rig in working order.
and hunt up some playable music to run on it.
if anyone could make good use of it, it would be you :-)
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by u5227470736789439
But Mike,
You have to send the cylinders with Bach improvising at the organ in Lubeck and Beethoven playing opus 111!
Seriously the sonic imperfections would be overlooked by me, if you could conjure these miracles.
T'would be nice if you find the very rare Hanover Square Room recordings of the premieres of Haydn's London Symphonies, just to ice the cake!
I understood that these were made secretly on the instruction of Salomon by hiding the recording horn under the podium, but legend has it that the balance was still acceptable, though these cylinders seemed to disappear from public circulation [possibly in a private collection in Vienna] about the time Beethoven's Eroica was first played.
What treasure we could conjure with a little imagination!
Best wishes ....
You have to send the cylinders with Bach improvising at the organ in Lubeck and Beethoven playing opus 111!
Seriously the sonic imperfections would be overlooked by me, if you could conjure these miracles.
T'would be nice if you find the very rare Hanover Square Room recordings of the premieres of Haydn's London Symphonies, just to ice the cake!
I understood that these were made secretly on the instruction of Salomon by hiding the recording horn under the podium, but legend has it that the balance was still acceptable, though these cylinders seemed to disappear from public circulation [possibly in a private collection in Vienna] about the time Beethoven's Eroica was first played.
What treasure we could conjure with a little imagination!
Best wishes ....
Posted on: 04 March 2009 by mikeeschman
quote:Originally posted by Mat Cork:
I can hear 8 then nothing above it...luckily I have a constant high pitch whistling which is actually quite loud...so I'm not missing out on anything. Phew.
that is an impediment to hearing classical music.
do you know what pitch the whistling is at?