Nikon D3 - Chris Kelly

Posted by: count.d on 09 May 2008

Chris,

In live view, does your lcd screen have any stuck pixels?

Mine has 3 which only show on live view. They are not there in normal use or the menu and they don't show up on the image.
Posted on: 09 May 2008 by Stephen Dupuis
Hmmm.....

Maybe a dust particle on the sensor that you see in live view because, I think, that the error correction for sensor dust might be off in this mode. Worth a call to Nikon.

SD
Posted on: 09 May 2008 by count.d
Stephen,

I had spoken to Nikon and they said it was normal. It's the ccd sensor that's generating heat as it's used for the live view. They said it's not faulty unless they show up in the final image.

I just wondered if Chris's had this and if so, how many .

I don't know anyone else who's got the camera.
Posted on: 09 May 2008 by Tony Lockhart
I have read a warning somewhere about the heat buiding up during live view on my 40D. I might take a look some time.

Tony
Posted on: 09 May 2008 by Tony Lockhart
I found this on Luminous-landscape.com:

It needs to be noted though that some people regard setting Live View with the SET button as a form of MLU. We'll, yes, in a way. But I'm not happy with it. For one thing, there's the small matter of battery drain and sensor heating. One of the dirty little secrets of Live View is that it makes the sensor hot, and heat is the enemy of sensor noise.

Seems normal then.

Are we going to need cooling fans on our DSLRs?

Tony
Posted on: 09 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Count d.
I'll have a look this weekend. I have not used LiveView on my D3 as yet. Mostly I have used it for the high ISO capabilities at social events. I'll take my tripod out and check it out.

As Tony has said it is probably down to the significant heat build up on the chip behind the LCD screen. To me Live View would be a lot more useful if the screen was mobile as it is on the Olympus E3 for example, so that it could be used for low (or indeed high) level shots.

Anyhow, I'll take a look and let you know on Sunday evening.
Posted on: 12 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Count
I had a fairly brief fiddle on Sunday (if you'll excuse the expression!). It was very warm outside and the whole camera was toasty.

LiveView is counterintuitive to me really, being an old school 35mm SLR guy. However, in the interests of science I had a go. I had 3 or so blank pixels on the screen but the pics themselves seem fine. Not sure what that proves but there you!
Posted on: 12 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
.....go! Finishing prematurely again......
Posted on: 12 May 2008 by count.d
Thanks Chris. It was just for interest really. I have a psychological problem when things I buy aren't absolutely perfect and I feel as though I'm the only one in the world who has the faulty product. I always think I'll grow out of it, but I never do.

I'm pleased for me that you have the same number of pixels showing up and pleased for you that you don't have more. It's nothing to worry about if they don't show up on the image.

We should have tea together and discuss the merits of Adobe RGB v sRGB.

P.S. I've just bought the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 for my D3 and think it's quite possibly the finest lens Nikon has ever made. It's so good I was laughing to myself in bed the other night. I did mention I have a psychological problem.
Posted on: 12 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Well for what it's worth I agree about the lens! My only regret is that there is no way to fit a filter on the front! The 24-70 2.8 is also an amazing thing.

As for the psych problem, I suspect you are only admitting to something most of us would identify with! Winker
Posted on: 12 May 2008 by markah
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
.....go! Finishing prematurely again......

Too much fiddling.........

Mark
Posted on: 13 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
My usual problem then! Winker
Posted on: 14 May 2008 by Derek Wright
On my E3 with the auto cleaning sensor etc I was using live view today to take pictures on the quiet while the security people where trying to stop people taking pictures of the filming of the new 007 film in Siena - it was only of crowd scenes of a non existent Palio - lots of kit on show but no stars

meanwhile back to your thread
Posted on: 14 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
quote:
On my E3 with the auto cleaning sensor etc


Ah Derek, straight blow to the D3's only weak spot! Funnily enough, wrestling mentally between taking the E3 or the D3 to Vienna on Friday! Hand luggage, 2 lenses at most... Tricky. Overall, the D3 wins with the 14-24 and the 24-70. On the other hand, the 12-60 is a cracker too. I just think the high ISO will be hand in all those splendid baroque interiors...

I have to say they are both fine tools. Now back to our thread!
Posted on: 18 May 2008 by Colin Lorenson
Chris,

No stuck pixels in LV on mine, but I rarely use LV anyway :-) There is a warning, I think, not to use the LV to long becasue of the heat build up issue.

On the same slightly sad note I have to admit I giggle at the sound of the camera going off at 9fps.

Off to Canada, the Rockies, BC and coast next month. Looking forward to the photo ops. Taking 24-70, 35 1.4, 45 2.8 and the 700-200. The 14-24 is so nice, but a little too extreme for me
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Colin
That's a great lens line-up )though I am not familiar with the 45 2.8) and a fabulous trip.

I have just returned from 3 days in Vienna with the D3 and my 2 2.8 lenses. I was really using it as tourist happy snappy device, but my first view of some of the Baroque church interiors I took with both lenses was exciting. I'll spend more time this week developing the RAW files.

I carried it round my neck or in my Billingham 335 for hours at a time without undue fatigue.
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Tuan
quote:
Originally posted by count.d:
Chris,

In live view, does your lcd screen have any stuck pixels?

Mine has 3 which only show on live view. They are not there in normal use or the menu and they don't show up on the image.


I never use the live-view feature on my D3 since the view thru the view finder is so nice. I use the D3 like my old F4 with the back screen turn-off most of the time. The matrix metering system with automatic ISO work so well, all pictures turn out to be "perfect" even with non autofocus lenses.
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Tuan

I agree totally. The auto ISO works incredibly well.
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Graham Russell
Is it possible to set the slowest acceptable shutter speed when using auto ISO? I had a guy cover a 10k race for me and totally screwed up his shots using auto ISO. The shutter dropped to 1/80th which is no good for sports photography. He should have noticed and not relied on technology!!

It needs to be 1/250th slowest.

Thanks
Graham.
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Derek Wright
With auto ISO you preset the shutter and aperture and let Auto ISO do what it needs to do - minimize the variables surely
Posted on: 19 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Graham
I was in A mode. I Then selected the minimum shutter speed (Which can be almost anyvalue - they are listed in the menu when you are setting up Auto ISO.Whatever aperture I set the camera made sure that the shutter speed/ISO combinaton never let the speed drop below the selected minimum. Have a look at the EXIF data next time you are over. I used exposure compensation quite bit in church interiors and it adjusted for that too.

You picked the wrong guy to help you!
Posted on: 22 May 2008 by Tuan
The fash SB400: can we reduce the flash output (like setting at -0.3EV) with the Nikon D3? I know it is a i-TTL flash but sometime, for close range shooting, this flash can cause over-exposure.
Posted on: 22 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
Sorry Tuan I don't know. I have an SB800 but I tend to use that on my D300 anyway. I'll take a look at the manual later when I get home.
Posted on: 22 May 2008 by northpole
Is it just me or is the D3 colossally huge? I have an F5, but even that seems dwarfed by comparison & my switch to rangefinders was not driven by poor performance - more from the discomfort of lugging the F5 & lenses around on walks.

Peter
Posted on: 22 May 2008 by Chris Kelly
It's not just you! Bigger than the the F4 I used to carry. Strangely though that didn't bother me for 3 days walking around Vienna with it on an Optech strap.