Bernard Manning is dead

Posted by: Diccus62 on 18 June 2007

No great loss to humanity or race relations i'd say. He came from a generation of comedians who used race particularly as a tool to demean people - he never moved on. He clearly had potential but was too bigoted and stuck in a rut to update his routine.

IMO

Diccus
Posted on: 18 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Sad news - but he wasn't particularly funny IMO.

Two hunters are out in the wood when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps: "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator says: "Calm down, I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says: "OK, now what?"
Posted on: 18 June 2007 by scottyhammer
i ran into the back of a dwarf in my car yesterday.
he got out inspected the damage and said im not happy.
i replied oh which one are you then?
Posted on: 18 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Bernard once said the reason that boys didn't end up playing for Manchester City was because when they were young their parents always told them to keep away from that main(e) road.
Posted on: 18 June 2007 by manicatel
Hopefully, jim davidson will follow soon.
Posted on: 19 June 2007 by Rasher
Strange though - I thought he had just made a good recovery
Posted on: 19 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by manicatel:
Hopefully, jim davidson will follow soon.


Jim Davidson was voted Britain’s unfunniest comedian in the laughter-free league. He beat Bernard Manning, Ben Elton and Bob Monkhouse into 2nd, 3rd and 4th place respectively.

I think it was a Virgin media poll.
Posted on: 19 June 2007 by Willy
quote:
Originally posted by Diccus62:
No great loss to humanity or race relations i'd say. He came from a generation of comedians who used race particularly as a tool to demean people - he never moved on. He clearly had potential but was too bigoted and stuck in a rut to update his routine.

IMO

Diccus


Not sure that Clive Lloyd, Farokh Engineer or John Conteh would agree with your view. All three asked him to do testimonial/fund-raising events.

Regards,

Willy.
Posted on: 19 June 2007 by Richard S
The best take on Bernard was John Thomson's impersonation with a twist. See him in action at;

Bernard Righton


Regards
Richard S
Posted on: 20 June 2007 by Gary S.
Does anybody remember the "Not the None O'Clock News" sketch where Pamela Stephenson doing the news headlines reads:- and finally the sad news that comedian Bearnard Manning, who had been told by doctors to loss four stone or die' has today lost.....four stone

Regards

Gary
Posted on: 20 June 2007 by flyfisher
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Strange though - I thought he had just made a good recovery



SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
Bernard Manning made a good living by being a comedian.

John Prescot who apparently is a politicain and the country's Deputy Prime minister (without portfolio) also makes a good living out of being a foul mouthed comedian.

You were never forced to watch Bernard Manning, but we all have to pay for the pleasure of Pressa.

Now that is a joke Razz.
Posted on: 21 June 2007 by Chris Kelly
Prezza seems to struggle to string a sentence together. Unfortunately, Manning did not.
Posted on: 21 June 2007 by flyfisher
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
Prezza seems to struggle to string a sentence together. Unfortunately, Manning did not.


Prezza is 2nd in command of the country when Tony is on holiday, that is not a joke, it scares the pants off me Eek
Posted on: 21 June 2007 by Chris Kelly
Well your pants can be safely re-instated. The buffoon steps down at the same time as his war-criminal master.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Steve O
Well someone must have liked what he did, the guy amassed a small fortune. I think we'd all like to be a tenner behind him.
If your my age (early 40's) you grew up in an environment where the jokes of Bernard Manning were the ones being bandied around by all and sundry. Times have changed for the better and the guy became a victim of political correctness. I am not condoning it just stating a fact. If you're totally honest with yourself, I doubt any of my age group can say they haven't laughed at one of his jokes.
Regards,
Steve O.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by JeremyD
quote:
Originally posted by Steve O:
If you're totally honest with yourself, I doubt any of my age group can say they haven't laughed at one of his jokes.
You can stop doubting. You're wrong.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by fatcat
quote:
Times have changed for the better and the guy became a victim of political correctness.




Have they really changed for the better, or just changed.

Manning’s in your face racist and sexist humour is deemed politically incorrect. However, add a little satire or irony to the racism/sexism and that’s acceptable.

The BBC allows Joe Brands sexism or Lenny Henry’s racism to be broadcast because they get good ratings.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Diccus62
Fair point. Indeed aren't the darlings of BBC4 'Little britain' equally as guilty.............



I think they have without doubt (in my mind) created a stereotype for many Thai women in this country which is shameful. I have heard bandied around men who are married to or who have 'bought' Thai brides. the women are generalised as 'Ting Tongs'. Sad really
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Is Little Britain supposed to be funny, I hadn't realised that Confused
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Willy
My daughter told me an Irish joke today. Does that make her a racist?

Regards,

Willy.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by JamieWednesday
It's not that he may have been rascist, he just wasn't funny IMO.
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Jet Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by Steve O:
Well someone must have liked what he did, the guy amassed a small fortune. I think we'd all like to be a tenner behind him.
If your my age (early 40's) you grew up in an environment where the jokes of Bernard Manning were the ones being bandied around by all and sundry. Times have changed for the better and the guy became a victim of political correctness. I am not condoning it just stating a fact. If you're totally honest with yourself, I doubt any of my age group can say they haven't laughed at one of his jokes.
Regards,
Steve O.



....I grew up in the same era ....and never liked (or understood) the racist stuff ...Manning wasn't "a victim" of anyone or anything ...he stuck with what he did because he appealed to the brain dead morons who filled his club (thus helping him "amass his small fortune") he could have still been funny about a host of other subjects but actively chose to do racist stuff ..it was'nt politically correct types who found his material offensive ..it was any normal decent human being. (which was something Manning and his audience never understood)
Posted on: 24 June 2007 by Steve O
Jet,
I'm sorry but I can't agree with you. Just because you laugh at racist jokes doesn't mean your a brain dead moron. It means you're probably not a very nice human being.
You say he could have chosen a host of other subjects to be funny about, but the sad fact is that jokes generally have a target, and some of those targets are more acceptable to your sensibilities than others.
I read once that Bernard Manning said he never made fun of anyone who could not defend themselves. Not a view I subscribe to, but it justified his act to his own conscience.
I'm playing devil's advocate here guys. I never paid money to watch Bernard Manning and do not condone any form of racism.
You have to remember that in this era prime time TV viewing included the likes of "Love thy neighbour"; a "sitcom", and I use the term loosely, where the two main protagonists, one white man and one coloured man, spent half an hour each week racially abusing and insulting each other. Hotels and guesthouses had signs in the window that stated " No blacks. No Irish". So with this in mind fatcat, I would say that things have changed for the better. They are not perfect though.

In my original post I wrote:
quote:
If you're totally honest with yourself, I doubt any of my age group can say they haven't laughed at one of his jokes.


This was challenged by JeremyD

quote:
You can stop doubting. You're wrong.


Maybe I should have wrote that at some point, if we are completely and brutally honest, we have laughed at something that will have offended somebody elses sensibilities, and with hindsight have regretted doing so.

Regards,
Steve O.
Posted on: 25 June 2007 by Nigel Cavendish
Racist jokes were funny; now we know better.
Posted on: 25 June 2007 by chiba
A link to an essay that reflects my viewpoint. Most efficient.

What You Can't Say - Paul Graham.
Posted on: 25 June 2007 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by Nigel Cavendish:
Racist jokes were funny; now we know better.

Jokes are jokes and they are funny. Hopefully "we" haven't forgotten how to laugh at each other.

EW