Copying an audio soundtrack from DVD
Posted by: Bruce Woodhouse on 08 August 2005
Possibly one for the AV room but since I only understand a fraction of the stuff in there I thought I'd risk it here!
I'm learning lines for a play in the autumn and have discovered a TV production of the same is available on DVD. What would be really useful would be to copy the audio file onto CD, or into my iPod so I can try to learn my lines in the car etc. I do not normally have problems with learning lines but this one is really hard.
Is it possible to do this from a commercial DVD which presumably has copy protection? I suspect not but worth a try.
May just have to play the DVD in my PC with a microphone in front of the speakers and save it that way I suppose.
Bruce
I'm learning lines for a play in the autumn and have discovered a TV production of the same is available on DVD. What would be really useful would be to copy the audio file onto CD, or into my iPod so I can try to learn my lines in the car etc. I do not normally have problems with learning lines but this one is really hard.
Is it possible to do this from a commercial DVD which presumably has copy protection? I suspect not but worth a try.
May just have to play the DVD in my PC with a microphone in front of the speakers and save it that way I suppose.
Bruce
Posted on: 09 August 2005 by Chumpy
There are video-sound splitting programmes around, but when I buy DVD to rip sound to WAV/to convert to something else, the blab below will sort you - just set up your 'BLANKS'/choose correct thingie on your Windows 'Recording' facility - see below!!!
Recording on MS Windows (use e.g. maybe CDEX/ITunes/Music Match or whatever to convert to compressed format if you choose afterwards...).
This is the best sound-quality method that I have used so far ... once you understand these boring 'instructions', it's a doddle.
N.B Stereo VCRs with up to 12 hours recording at 'third of speed) are very convenient for 'time-shifting' digital (from cable-box etc) or analogue (maybe with timer on FM tuner/amp..) programmes ...
Audio cassette (etc ......)
Playing DVD in PC (etc....)
Connect cassette (etc ....) m/c to PC e.g. via audio amplification/directly into PC Line in ( you might use preferably e.g. RCA phonos, but probably use RCA phono x 2 from cassette/tape/VCR/amplification etc machine into 3.5 mm stereo jack - N.B. correct left -right output from source ...).
1) Ensure you have Volume control icon on main Tool bar (usually at bottom of screen...) - To do this, go into start menu, (usually bottom left green button ...) Control panel, Sounds and audio devices .... Tick-check little box 'Place icon on ....'.
Select this route into playback/recording ...on Left menu, select Options .. Recording ...
Make sure you have Line in & Stereo mix AT LEAST checked-ticked - you might want to add TV tuner or whatever you've got ... this will get you recording from LINE INPUT & e.g web-site song playing/DVD in PC ....
2) Place shortcut to Sound Recorder on desktop/in start menu - wherever you choose ...
Go into start menu (as before..) - select All Programs - Accessories - Entertainment - Sound Recorder
Make shortcut for this on desktop/in start menu - wherever .....
3) Now you can easily get at the main 2 routes into the Windows best/easiest way of recording at highest quality, without confusion from expensive add-on 'Recording' programs .....
select sound recorder
record (press red button) for the 60 seconds
select save as in left menu ... remember/choose where you're saving file!!!!!!! at this stage, it's best to select format in which you're actually saving your stuff - go for best quality option, which you select by pressing Change button at bottom of sound recorder save thingie ...
now you see top left-ish button - press - select CD quality ... as you see, this will save as 44.100.... 16 bit STERE0 - this will mean your BLANKS you save will always be set up as decent .wav files.
You can always convert to e.g. .mp3 later via e.g. CDEX or MusicMatch (free downloads) etc.
save this file as e.g. 1 (in a place you can find it later!!!!!!)
move sound recorder slider to far right ALWAYS during these processes ...
select 2nd top left menu in sound recorder ... INSERT ...
insert your 1 minute file ... now you have a 2 minute BLANK ... save this as e.g 2 somewhere you can locate later.
As before, insert e.g. file 2 at end - call it e.g. 4 (for minutes) and Save as ...)
Keep doing save as - insert till you've got e.g. BLANKS of different lengths - e.g. 8 minutes/ 16 minutes/32 minutes .... IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO SAVE FILE ON YOUR COMPUTER .... it uses RAM, and if you've got 512k of decent speed stuff you can make up to e.g. about a 32 minute BLANK - enough to record in a side of most LP vinyl/half hour radio programme .... if you have 256k , you'll be limited to about 12 or 16 minute blank ...
.... you can always record a track at a time from e.g. tape/vinyl etc, but I tend to do an LP side and EDIT it later - some basic editing can be carried out via Sound Recorder, or Nero etc wav editor ..
TO RECORD, SELECT YOUR VOLUME CONTROL/(MAKE SURE YOUR E.G. INPUT IS SETUP, IN REALITY AND ON DISPLAY) - go into menu options recording - select usually Line in (or Stereo mix if you're recording from web or DVD in your computer) - do test-recording into a convenient-length BLANK you've made/saved for LEVEL (don't go anywhere near top or bottom of Sound Recorder level display - adjust vertical slider ... you can always Normalize if you want later in e.g. Nero....
If recording LP, usually quickest to open 32 minute blank, record at right level, then SAVE whole 32 minute recording AS e.g. side 1 . When your'e ready to play e.g. side 2 of LP, MAKE SURE sound recorder slider is moved back to LEFT 0 position ... press red button record.... when side etc finished, you can stop - save as e.g side 2. You can chop off beginning/end of file later by reloading it into EMPTY Sound recorder file ...., and saving as ....
Look at menu-options in sound recorder ... insert file-delete before current position - delete after current position are probably most useful ....
Plenty of other commercial programmes available, plus SilentBob as free download ... often the latter records at too high a level, but is great to avoid your having to go through this palaver I worked out for myself in 1996 ... IMHO once you've got your blanks setup/saved, it gives best results...
You might want to check too that e.g. your twin-phono RCA left-right stereo lead into 3.5 mm jack on your computer line in card-thingie actually gets you LEFT on left and vice-versa ---most PC components reverse channels at least once during whole input-recording playback-burning to DVDR-RW-CDRW-CDR stage!!!!!!
It is possible theoretically to improve everything by having quality (sometimes more expensive) equipment-cables-soundcard etc ...
It is quite easy to output line level signals from e.g. amplifier (supplied by any number of inputs ...) into PC.
As has been suggested, 2 RCA phonos out from e.g. amplifier into 3.5mm stereo jack will usually provide adequate e.g. analogue signals into PC for 'recording' to digital formats. (Many people use expensive internal/reasonably priced USB external soundcards with e.g. RCA phono L-R socketry).
Having recorded e.g. vinyl in a similar manner for many years, here are a few 'things' I have discovered.
01 Ensure you have LEFT/RIGHT channels inputted correctly through your PC so your digital-copy/recording does not reverse channels - this IMO extremely obvious point is ignored by most users.
02 Although some people maintain that 'the hostile PC environment' will compromise your recordings, I have found that there is little - if any - significant difference between using very short cabling/long cabling - expensive/not expensive cabling - expensive/not expensive audio components - expensive/not expensive soundcards etc etc.
03 Probably you have worked out how to record into e.g. Windows ... - this will give you your best .WAV 'master', which you can archive on e.g. hard-drives-DVDR-RWs etc-CDRs-CDRW/burn to CD audio discs/convert to different compressed formats later if you wish.
Basic editing (chopping off unwanted noise at beginning/end of 'recordings - maybe 'normalizing' etc) can be carried out on PC via supplied/readily downloadable-purchasable packages, but if you feel need to 'over edit' ORIGINAL SOUND you have recorded to e.g. .WAV, you will probably reduce sound quality permanently.
Recording on MS Windows (use e.g. maybe CDEX/ITunes/Music Match or whatever to convert to compressed format if you choose afterwards...).
This is the best sound-quality method that I have used so far ... once you understand these boring 'instructions', it's a doddle.
N.B Stereo VCRs with up to 12 hours recording at 'third of speed) are very convenient for 'time-shifting' digital (from cable-box etc) or analogue (maybe with timer on FM tuner/amp..) programmes ...
Audio cassette (etc ......)
Playing DVD in PC (etc....)
Connect cassette (etc ....) m/c to PC e.g. via audio amplification/directly into PC Line in ( you might use preferably e.g. RCA phonos, but probably use RCA phono x 2 from cassette/tape/VCR/amplification etc machine into 3.5 mm stereo jack - N.B. correct left -right output from source ...).
1) Ensure you have Volume control icon on main Tool bar (usually at bottom of screen...) - To do this, go into start menu, (usually bottom left green button ...) Control panel, Sounds and audio devices .... Tick-check little box 'Place icon on ....'.
Select this route into playback/recording ...on Left menu, select Options .. Recording ...
Make sure you have Line in & Stereo mix AT LEAST checked-ticked - you might want to add TV tuner or whatever you've got ... this will get you recording from LINE INPUT & e.g web-site song playing/DVD in PC ....
2) Place shortcut to Sound Recorder on desktop/in start menu - wherever you choose ...
Go into start menu (as before..) - select All Programs - Accessories - Entertainment - Sound Recorder
Make shortcut for this on desktop/in start menu - wherever .....
3) Now you can easily get at the main 2 routes into the Windows best/easiest way of recording at highest quality, without confusion from expensive add-on 'Recording' programs .....
select sound recorder
record (press red button) for the 60 seconds
select save as in left menu ... remember/choose where you're saving file!!!!!!! at this stage, it's best to select format in which you're actually saving your stuff - go for best quality option, which you select by pressing Change button at bottom of sound recorder save thingie ...
now you see top left-ish button - press - select CD quality ... as you see, this will save as 44.100.... 16 bit STERE0 - this will mean your BLANKS you save will always be set up as decent .wav files.
You can always convert to e.g. .mp3 later via e.g. CDEX or MusicMatch (free downloads) etc.
save this file as e.g. 1 (in a place you can find it later!!!!!!)
move sound recorder slider to far right ALWAYS during these processes ...
select 2nd top left menu in sound recorder ... INSERT ...
insert your 1 minute file ... now you have a 2 minute BLANK ... save this as e.g 2 somewhere you can locate later.
As before, insert e.g. file 2 at end - call it e.g. 4 (for minutes) and Save as ...)
Keep doing save as - insert till you've got e.g. BLANKS of different lengths - e.g. 8 minutes/ 16 minutes/32 minutes .... IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO SAVE FILE ON YOUR COMPUTER .... it uses RAM, and if you've got 512k of decent speed stuff you can make up to e.g. about a 32 minute BLANK - enough to record in a side of most LP vinyl/half hour radio programme .... if you have 256k , you'll be limited to about 12 or 16 minute blank ...
.... you can always record a track at a time from e.g. tape/vinyl etc, but I tend to do an LP side and EDIT it later - some basic editing can be carried out via Sound Recorder, or Nero etc wav editor ..
TO RECORD, SELECT YOUR VOLUME CONTROL/(MAKE SURE YOUR E.G. INPUT IS SETUP, IN REALITY AND ON DISPLAY) - go into menu options recording - select usually Line in (or Stereo mix if you're recording from web or DVD in your computer) - do test-recording into a convenient-length BLANK you've made/saved for LEVEL (don't go anywhere near top or bottom of Sound Recorder level display - adjust vertical slider ... you can always Normalize if you want later in e.g. Nero....
If recording LP, usually quickest to open 32 minute blank, record at right level, then SAVE whole 32 minute recording AS e.g. side 1 . When your'e ready to play e.g. side 2 of LP, MAKE SURE sound recorder slider is moved back to LEFT 0 position ... press red button record.... when side etc finished, you can stop - save as e.g side 2. You can chop off beginning/end of file later by reloading it into EMPTY Sound recorder file ...., and saving as ....
Look at menu-options in sound recorder ... insert file-delete before current position - delete after current position are probably most useful ....
Plenty of other commercial programmes available, plus SilentBob as free download ... often the latter records at too high a level, but is great to avoid your having to go through this palaver I worked out for myself in 1996 ... IMHO once you've got your blanks setup/saved, it gives best results...
You might want to check too that e.g. your twin-phono RCA left-right stereo lead into 3.5 mm jack on your computer line in card-thingie actually gets you LEFT on left and vice-versa ---most PC components reverse channels at least once during whole input-recording playback-burning to DVDR-RW-CDRW-CDR stage!!!!!!
It is possible theoretically to improve everything by having quality (sometimes more expensive) equipment-cables-soundcard etc ...
It is quite easy to output line level signals from e.g. amplifier (supplied by any number of inputs ...) into PC.
As has been suggested, 2 RCA phonos out from e.g. amplifier into 3.5mm stereo jack will usually provide adequate e.g. analogue signals into PC for 'recording' to digital formats. (Many people use expensive internal/reasonably priced USB external soundcards with e.g. RCA phono L-R socketry).
Having recorded e.g. vinyl in a similar manner for many years, here are a few 'things' I have discovered.
01 Ensure you have LEFT/RIGHT channels inputted correctly through your PC so your digital-copy/recording does not reverse channels - this IMO extremely obvious point is ignored by most users.
02 Although some people maintain that 'the hostile PC environment' will compromise your recordings, I have found that there is little - if any - significant difference between using very short cabling/long cabling - expensive/not expensive cabling - expensive/not expensive audio components - expensive/not expensive soundcards etc etc.
03 Probably you have worked out how to record into e.g. Windows ... - this will give you your best .WAV 'master', which you can archive on e.g. hard-drives-DVDR-RWs etc-CDRs-CDRW/burn to CD audio discs/convert to different compressed formats later if you wish.
Basic editing (chopping off unwanted noise at beginning/end of 'recordings - maybe 'normalizing' etc) can be carried out on PC via supplied/readily downloadable-purchasable packages, but if you feel need to 'over edit' ORIGINAL SOUND you have recorded to e.g. .WAV, you will probably reduce sound quality permanently.
Posted on: 09 August 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
Wow!
I just skimmed this and it looks ferociously complex but I'm sure i can work through it.
Thanks a lot
Bruce
I just skimmed this and it looks ferociously complex but I'm sure i can work through it.
Thanks a lot
Bruce
Posted on: 09 August 2005 by John Sheridan
do it the easy way. Put the dvd in your pc,
download a copy of dvd2avi , and rip the wav file. Takes about 2 minutes.
download a copy of dvd2avi , and rip the wav file. Takes about 2 minutes.
Posted on: 09 August 2005 by TomK
I use DVD Audio Ripper which does the job well. DVD in one end, WAVs out the other. Simple.
Posted on: 10 August 2005 by Martin D
Have a look here
there's a forum as well
there's a forum as well
Posted on: 10 August 2005 by Bruce Woodhouse
Thanks everyone. Whole stack of TLD's(three letter abreviations) on those links that are a complete mystery but I'm sure I'll work it out.
Bruce
Bruce