NFL 2009

Posted by: JamieL_v2 on 15 September 2009

I know a lot of people here will not be fans, but I know there are a few who are, so I though a thread for the new season would get some interesting contributions.

Not quite seen all the week one results, but Pittsburgh looked strong, as did Tennessee, great opener.

Here are some predictions I posted on another (small) forum:

NFC
The NFC has few stand out teams, a lot falling back, and a few rebuilding. The South is strong, as is the East, the North competitive, only the West has a number of weak teams. New York Giants, Arizona Cardinals and Green Bay Packers I think will be in the play-offs, the rest will be very close, with a handful of poor teams at the bottom.

NFC East:
New York Giants
Dallas Cowboys
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

Close division, but they are all tough. The Giants will probably be the most consistent team. Dallas still have a lot of talented players, it is just whether they will gel into a team. I just don't believe that Phildelphia will be anything special, McNabb is getting old. Washington will find it a hard division to compete in, but we not be bad.

NFC North
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings
Chicago Bears
Detroit Lions

I think Green Bay will build on last year, Minnesota's running game will be good. I don't think Jay Cutler is the final piece needed for Chicago, I think he will be disruptive, I do think that Detroit will win more games than last year (they lost all 16 for those who do not know).

NFC South
Atlanta Falcons
New Orleans Saints
Carloina Panthers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I think that each team has won this division at least once in the last five years. Tampa might be rebuilding under a new coach, but the other three are all competitive.

NFC West
Arizona Cardinals
Seattle Seahawks
San Francisco 49'ers
St Loius Rams


Arizona will not take teams by suprise this year, but will be good, and do not have a lot of competition in the division.

Division winners: New York Giants, Green Bay Packers, Atlanta Falcons, Arizona Cardinals
Wild Cards: Minnesota Vikings, and one of Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, New Orleans Saints, Carloina Panthers - it is that even.
Weak teams: Detroit Lions, San Francisco 49'ers, St Loius Rams

AFC
Steelers, Patriots, Chargers are the class of the AFC, an awful lot of other good teams, and oh dear, how the AFC West has fallen. San Diego can book their playoff birth now (you don't know how that pains me to say)

AFC East:
New England Patriots
Miami Dolphins
New York Jets
Buffalo Bills

With Brady back The Patriots will be the class of the division again, Miami will be good, the Jets are rebuilding, will have as lot of pieces though, and Buffalo will probably start strong and fade as they often do. Strong division.

AFC North:
Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals


The Steelers are just a great consistent team, brilliantly run, a coach who has the confidence that he will be backed, a quarterback who is just a winner. I know they won last year, but hard to pick against them. The Ravens will be tough, play hard football and give Pittsburgh a run for the division. Cleveland and Cincinnati are so, so.

AFC South:
Tennessee Titans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans

A lot of talent in this division, I think the Titans will remain good, Jeff Fisher is such a good coach, the Colts are still very strong. Jacksonville will be much stronger than last year's disarray, and Houston have a tough job to complete against such strong teams.

AFC West:
San Diego Chargers
Kansas City Chiefs
Denver Broncos
Oakland Raiders


The AFC Worst as it was known last year, San Diego are head and shoulders above the rest, who are all rebuilding, or in the case of Oakland, just a mess. Denver so long a contender have fallen apart since the sacking of Shannahan, good riddance to Cutler, but they do not have a replacement, a long season ahead.

Division winners: New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers
Wild cards: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts (Dolphins could be there too).

The NFL looks more open and even than it has for years, there are few teams that can be pencilled in division winners, last years winners Pittsbugh are hard to pick against, and San Diego are very good in a division with no opposition. New England will be back, but the Dolphins are a good team to challenge. Indianalpolis will be strong, but have a new coach, so it might not gel as under Dungy. The NFC is grown stranger over the last few years, and the best teams are on a par with the AFC's best.

Looking back at my picks for last year, they were so wrong, this year will be no better. Some teams who looked like no-hoper's will rise, and some team who look like winners will get key injuries, or fall apart. Remember how Dallas looked sure to win the Superbowl this time last year, but didn't even make the playoffs.

If I had to pick a Superbowl it would be New York Giants vs Pittsburgh Steelers, but that is a dull pick, as it is the last two winners against each other. They are both the team to beat in their conference, but a lot of teams will run them close.

Teams in italic are weak and will not compete.

Since writing that, I must add that Green bay look like a very strong contender for the Superbowl too. I may also have under-rated Seattle who have gained some good players. I wrote this before Favre joined Minnesota, he might be a good fit there as the running game should stop him from having to try win in the 4th quarter, but I still think is gambles too much, and will throw a lot of interceptions.

Speaking of interceptions, I did see jay Cuttler's first half at Chicago. Ha, ha, not so great without the rest of the Denver offense. (I am now going to catch the second half, and will probably have to eat my works - but I don;t think so really).

There are teams I have disliked in the past, but this year there is one I am saving nearly all my spleen for, I will not forgive what I consider unforgivable, and I neither like the coach or the incumbent QB, let alone the animal torturer they have taken on:
Posted on: 19 October 2009 by JamieL_v2
Did anyone see New Orleans blow The Giants away, fantastic game.

Also loved the Eagles at Raiders result (see sometimes I really do support the Raiders, go Jamarcus!).

Bears at Falcons was very good too.

Must have a hunt around to see if there is any radio coverage of tonight's Game, Broncos at Chargers (no TV for Mondays in the UK this year).

I am just enjoying this season more and more.
Posted on: 20 October 2009 by JamieL_v2
Quiet on this thread again. I hope you are not keeping away expecting me to gloat about Denver's win over San Diego.

As if I would...... OK, I would, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat!

Come on John, you have to be pretty happy with The Raiders win over The Eagles, I certainly was, although (like you I suspect) I do object to Kansas winning any games, especially when they were being so consistent up to this weekend.
Posted on: 20 October 2009 by John M
Like I said before - Stokely, Moreno, Dumervil, etc. Great catch by Scheffler on his tiptoes and fingertips in the endzone, great throw by Orton. You guys have a real team there. I love the new/old uniforms just for variety's sake.

Yeah I am pretty excited about a win, especially the way the defense played, even without Nnamdi. And I am still not convinced about jamarcus. His lone TD was really a brilliant run after catch by Miller with some outrageous blocking by my pick for offensive captain, rookie wideout Louis Murphy. We are all holding our breath here waiting for the other shoe to drop on Cable.

Even though I hate the Patriots with a passion, that 59 - 0 clubbing of the Titans in the snow was a marvel, although embarassing for the NFL.
Posted on: 20 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
If the Browns don't win the Superbowl I would want the Pats to win....says it all! Smile

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Paper Plane
Is this the game that has a "World Series" where only one country takes part?

steve
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
No that would be Baseball! Get your facts right! Smile
For now....


Jim
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Paper Plane
Baseball is it? Ah, rounders in pyjamas. Smile

steve
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by pcstockton
quote:
Originally posted by Paper Plane:
Is this the game that has a "World Series" where only one country takes part?

steve


Yep! Kind of like the World Cup, where only Brazil takes part. Winker

Seriously though, I find it interesting that only 7 countries have won it. And ignoring England and France's one time wins, it is basically the Brazil-Germany-Italy Cup.
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Patrick

Fair comment, except you did miss out Uruguay and Argentina as multiple winners ...and you may want to look at the global TV viewing figures for the Superbowl vs. World Cup, 715 million viewers for the last final..... Smile

Cheers

Ji
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by pcstockton
Exiled,

Surely football is more popular than american football. As it should be.

I was mostly just playing around.

Ameri-football is my LEAST favorite sport and AFAIK only serves as a means to play Fantasy sports.

I would rather watch 5 year olds playing soccer than the NFL any day of the week.

Baseball though..... back off. A truly wonderful, beautiful sport. And it is a true world sport these days. More non-Americans than ever in the MLB.

-p
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Patrick

I broke my leg in two places playing American Football, so I speak with some passion for a great game for an athlete to play.

I also played football (soccer) semi-professionally for 20 years so I know that sport as well.

As for Baseball, I moved to the US in 1997 just as my beloved Cleveland Indians won the AL only to lose (unbelievably!!) to the Marlins in the World Series.

Great sports all of them and I was only taking the piss (as usual) on baseball.

But there is no denying that US sports (Football, Baseball and Basketball) declaring World Champions is a little over the top compared to soccer.

Cheers

JIm
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by MilesSmiles
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
Seriously though, I find it interesting that only 7 countries have won it. And ignoring England and France's one time wins, it is basically the Brazil-Germany-Italy Cup.


Nothing wrong with that IMHO. Big Grin
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by BigH47
quote:
Is this the game that has a "World Series" where only one country takes part?



2 actually, USA and Canada eh!
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by matt podniesinski
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:

As for Baseball, I moved to the US in 1997 just as my beloved Cleveland Indians won the AL only to lose (unbelievably!!) to the Marlins in the World Series.

JIm


Ouch. That one still hurts. Perhaps not as much as enduring the last two seasons but I still remember that blown save in the ninth and losing it in the 11th vividly.
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Matt

Jose Mesa is the Devil's spawn! Smile

Jim
Posted on: 23 October 2009 by pcstockton
ahhhh good ol' Joe Table. We had his ass in Seattle for a bit. Painful.
Posted on: 24 October 2009 by John M
Sounds like you guys need to start a baseball thread....please!
Posted on: 25 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Not a Baseball fan then John? It could be worse, we could have gone off topic on Basketball or even better ice hockey! Smile

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 25 October 2009 by MilesSmiles
Big game for the Dolphins today, a win will keep us in touch with the Pats and helps to protect the perfect season.
Posted on: 25 October 2009 by John M
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
Not a Baseball fan then John? It could be worse, we could have gone off topic on Basketball or even better ice hockey! Smile

Cheers

Jim


True, Jim. Respect, yes, just not alot of patience for the game.

Watching the Browns do a decent job of holding off the Pack right now. Oops - Green Bay just scored. 7-3 Pack. Still Cleveland is doing a respectable job. I wonder how the Pats and the Bucs are getting on in London. It was 21 nothing Pats last time I checked.

Also watching the Vikings/Steeleers which is shaping up to be a great defensive game.
Posted on: 25 October 2009 by John M
quote:
Originally posted by MilesSmiles:
Big game for the Dolphins today, a win will keep us in touch with the Pats and helps to protect the perfect season.


Miles - I am really looking forward to that game - go Fins!!!
Posted on: 25 October 2009 by Exiled Highlander
John
quote:
Watching the Browns do a decent job of holding off the Pack right now.
Thanks for jinxing things. This is a bad football team!

Jim
Posted on: 26 October 2009 by John M
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
John
quote:
Watching the Browns do a decent job of holding off the Pack right now.
Thanks for jinxing things. This is a bad football team!

Jim

Oops! Trust me I know how you feel. At least your team scored some points. My team got shut out (again.)
Posted on: 26 October 2009 by BigH47
Never seen so many different NFL shirts as we saw in London yesterday(Sunday). Apparently there were some chaps playing non football Football. I now realise what NFL stands for. Roll Eyes Big Grin

At least the Redskins didn't loose Winker , Wembley game looked close,not.
Out of interest how much do match tickets cost stateside? Wembley seemed to be £45-100, no competion for seats of course, over here.
Posted on: 26 October 2009 by JamieL_v2
I can't read this thread at the moment, as I have yet to catch up on all the games from yesterday (sky box).

I had a great time at the game, but obviously not as exciting as last year.

Got home at 4am after a couple of hours sleep in a services on the M1.