NFL 2009

Posted by: JamieL_v2 on 15 September 2009

I know a lot of people here will not be fans, but I know there are a few who are, so I though a thread for the new season would get some interesting contributions.

Not quite seen all the week one results, but Pittsburgh looked strong, as did Tennessee, great opener.

Here are some predictions I posted on another (small) forum:

NFC
The NFC has few stand out teams, a lot falling back, and a few rebuilding. The South is strong, as is the East, the North competitive, only the West has a number of weak teams. New York Giants, Arizona Cardinals and Green Bay Packers I think will be in the play-offs, the rest will be very close, with a handful of poor teams at the bottom.

NFC East:
New York Giants
Dallas Cowboys
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

Close division, but they are all tough. The Giants will probably be the most consistent team. Dallas still have a lot of talented players, it is just whether they will gel into a team. I just don't believe that Phildelphia will be anything special, McNabb is getting old. Washington will find it a hard division to compete in, but we not be bad.

NFC North
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings
Chicago Bears
Detroit Lions

I think Green Bay will build on last year, Minnesota's running game will be good. I don't think Jay Cutler is the final piece needed for Chicago, I think he will be disruptive, I do think that Detroit will win more games than last year (they lost all 16 for those who do not know).

NFC South
Atlanta Falcons
New Orleans Saints
Carloina Panthers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I think that each team has won this division at least once in the last five years. Tampa might be rebuilding under a new coach, but the other three are all competitive.

NFC West
Arizona Cardinals
Seattle Seahawks
San Francisco 49'ers
St Loius Rams


Arizona will not take teams by suprise this year, but will be good, and do not have a lot of competition in the division.

Division winners: New York Giants, Green Bay Packers, Atlanta Falcons, Arizona Cardinals
Wild Cards: Minnesota Vikings, and one of Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, New Orleans Saints, Carloina Panthers - it is that even.
Weak teams: Detroit Lions, San Francisco 49'ers, St Loius Rams

AFC
Steelers, Patriots, Chargers are the class of the AFC, an awful lot of other good teams, and oh dear, how the AFC West has fallen. San Diego can book their playoff birth now (you don't know how that pains me to say)

AFC East:
New England Patriots
Miami Dolphins
New York Jets
Buffalo Bills

With Brady back The Patriots will be the class of the division again, Miami will be good, the Jets are rebuilding, will have as lot of pieces though, and Buffalo will probably start strong and fade as they often do. Strong division.

AFC North:
Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals


The Steelers are just a great consistent team, brilliantly run, a coach who has the confidence that he will be backed, a quarterback who is just a winner. I know they won last year, but hard to pick against them. The Ravens will be tough, play hard football and give Pittsburgh a run for the division. Cleveland and Cincinnati are so, so.

AFC South:
Tennessee Titans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans

A lot of talent in this division, I think the Titans will remain good, Jeff Fisher is such a good coach, the Colts are still very strong. Jacksonville will be much stronger than last year's disarray, and Houston have a tough job to complete against such strong teams.

AFC West:
San Diego Chargers
Kansas City Chiefs
Denver Broncos
Oakland Raiders


The AFC Worst as it was known last year, San Diego are head and shoulders above the rest, who are all rebuilding, or in the case of Oakland, just a mess. Denver so long a contender have fallen apart since the sacking of Shannahan, good riddance to Cutler, but they do not have a replacement, a long season ahead.

Division winners: New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers
Wild cards: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts (Dolphins could be there too).

The NFL looks more open and even than it has for years, there are few teams that can be pencilled in division winners, last years winners Pittsbugh are hard to pick against, and San Diego are very good in a division with no opposition. New England will be back, but the Dolphins are a good team to challenge. Indianalpolis will be strong, but have a new coach, so it might not gel as under Dungy. The NFC is grown stranger over the last few years, and the best teams are on a par with the AFC's best.

Looking back at my picks for last year, they were so wrong, this year will be no better. Some teams who looked like no-hoper's will rise, and some team who look like winners will get key injuries, or fall apart. Remember how Dallas looked sure to win the Superbowl this time last year, but didn't even make the playoffs.

If I had to pick a Superbowl it would be New York Giants vs Pittsburgh Steelers, but that is a dull pick, as it is the last two winners against each other. They are both the team to beat in their conference, but a lot of teams will run them close.

Teams in italic are weak and will not compete.

Since writing that, I must add that Green bay look like a very strong contender for the Superbowl too. I may also have under-rated Seattle who have gained some good players. I wrote this before Favre joined Minnesota, he might be a good fit there as the running game should stop him from having to try win in the 4th quarter, but I still think is gambles too much, and will throw a lot of interceptions.

Speaking of interceptions, I did see jay Cuttler's first half at Chicago. Ha, ha, not so great without the rest of the Denver offense. (I am now going to catch the second half, and will probably have to eat my works - but I don;t think so really).

There are teams I have disliked in the past, but this year there is one I am saving nearly all my spleen for, I will not forgive what I consider unforgivable, and I neither like the coach or the incumbent QB, let alone the animal torturer they have taken on:
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by John M
The way I saw it, Bellichick WAS winning and he threw it away, literally. Must not have trusted his defense to hold Manning from scoring with less than 2 min, given an average start of, say, 25 yard line (75 yards to gain.) Maybe he was right, but I think I would have punted and taken my chances, as opposed to pretty much risking it all on one play. Maybe the mistake he made was underestimating the Colts defense to stop the 4th and 2, rather than underestimating his own defense.

Oh and by the way who said the Raiders could not get any worse? Oh that was me. And they never fail to disappoint. And my basketball team is falling apart as well. Must be the something in the water out here. Or just that pro sports is sliding into a deep dark hole in general.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by JamieL_v2
From nfl.com
Raiders demote Russell, go with Gradkowski at QB.

Boston Globe
The Buffalo Bills fired coach Dick Jauron yesterday and named defensive coordinator Perry Fewell interim coach.

This week has a few interesting games. For Giants and Broncos fans, they are both on losing streaks, 4 & 3 games respectively. Miami and Carloina are going the other way, can they fight back into it, they meet tonight.

Indianapolis at Baltimore, that will be tough game, I still think Baltimore can throw their weight about and win some games against good teams, and might be a wild card.
Posted on: 06 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
Been a while here, boy is it getting exciting. Ah, adds over, must get back to the games.
Posted on: 07 December 2009 by MilesSmiles
Can't believe the Saints survived this Sunday unbeaten. Roll Eyes

Nice win for the Dolphins but might be too little too late.
Posted on: 08 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
With two team 12-0, it is looking quite likely we might have at least one unbeaten team at the end of the regular season.

The Colts have the following games to go:
Denver Broncos (home), Jacksonville Jaguars (away), NY Jets (home), Buffalo Bills (away)
All games they are capable of winning. Denver might put up a fight, and Jacksonville are a good team fighting for a playoff berth.

New Orleans have the following games to go:
Atlana (away), Dallas (home), Tampa Bay (home), Carolina (away)
They could win all those, although Dallas might be tough if they can work out how to win in December.

That could make for a very interesting post season, but San Diego are on a strong run, and Arizona and Minnesota are both strong teams, even if they have good and bad days.

Wouldn't an unbeaten Colts vs Saints be a fantastic Superbowl? I do think that is along way away though.

Miami fans must be getting worried about their lone perfect season, Oliver?
Posted on: 08 December 2009 by BigH47
quote:
With two team 12-0, it is looking quite likely we might have at least one unbeaten team at the end of the regular season.



Is one of those the Redskins? Roll Eyes Smile
Posted on: 08 December 2009 by John M
Go Raiders (wait did I say that out loud?) Howard we have washington next.....look out.
Posted on: 08 December 2009 by MilesSmiles
quote:

Miami fans must be getting worried about their lone perfect season, Oliver?


Sure thing, the Saints should have gone down this Sunday but I guess it takes skill and luck to go perfect. Good chance one of the two will finish the regular season clean but I will jinx them for the play-offs. Winker
Posted on: 08 December 2009 by John M
Miles - the fins seem to be doing ok without ronnie brown! Henne had a cracker of a game last week.
Posted on: 10 December 2009 by Exiled Highlander
My Browns actaully won their second game of the season last night and against the hated Pukesburgh as well Smile All is well in the world now! Smile

Jim
Posted on: 11 December 2009 by John M
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
My Browns actaully won their second game of the season last night and against the hated Pukesburgh as well Smile All is well in the world now! Smile

Jim

Hah! You and me both Jim. I have been on a weeklong high after Raiders beat Pittsburgh last weekend. Pitiful such control american football has over my moods.
Posted on: 12 December 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Pukesburgh John.....not Pittsburgh! Smile
Posted on: 13 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
Only just caught up on Thursday's game. Good won for the Browns. Quinn needs some serious practice with the long ball, too many high and inaccurate throws. Good defense for the Browns though.

Interesting games today, but must get some sleep, busy day tomorrow. Playoffs clarifying, but NFC East still very open.
Posted on: 14 December 2009 by Jet Johnson
We Cowboy fans look forward to December as much as the average turkey! Frown Frown Frown
Posted on: 14 December 2009 by Exiled Highlander
Jamie
quote:
Quinn needs some serious practice with the long ball, too many high and inaccurate throws.
I take it then that you have never been to Cleveland in December? :-) It was -6F with 30mph winds...hardly conducive to accurate deep thrown balls! :-) Give Quin a chance...it has been 3 years since he was drafted and only now is he he getting the playing time he needs - and that on a crap Browns team as well! A win is a win is a win though!

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 14 December 2009 by MilesSmiles
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
My Browns actaully won their second game of the season last night and against the hated Pukesburgh as well Smile All is well in the world now! Smile

Jim


The Steelers amaze me, but I too take some joy in it. Big Grin
Posted on: 17 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
Jim

I take your point, and agree that playing in games will improve Quinn's passing, but I think it is your defense that will come to the fore first, that was great to watch, and they certainly had the measure of Rothisberger.

Really disappointed that the Giants could not beat Pittsburgh last Sunday.

Two unbeaten teams at 13-0 (14 weeks by NFL calculations), the first time ever in the NFL, and they do not appear to have any really difficult opponents left in their schedules.

It does rather look like the six teams from each conference have slotted into their post season placings, there are a few teams bubbling under, but I would be surprised to see much change in the next three weeks, maybe the sixth place wild cards being fought over a bit.

The exception is the AFC East, where Miami and possibly even The Jets could unseat New England if they continue to be so patchy.

The most important thing for me is that we do not have a San Diego vs Philadelphia Superbowl, I would watch, but hope for a 3-3 draw, and might enjoy it if the dog killer got a few hard sacks. I really do not think it will come to that though, go Indianapolis, go Saints, well go any one else in the playoffs.

I have noticed that Denver are quite likely to get to the post season, and yes I will support them, but last week's game against Indianapolis did show that although they are an awful lot better than I could even have hoped for at the start of the season, that they can not really play with the elite teams at the moment.
Posted on: 17 December 2009 by MilesSmiles


Horrible story, RIP.
Posted on: 17 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
Very sad indeed, only 28 years old, and with three children.
Posted on: 17 December 2009 by MilesSmiles
The Colts moved to 14-0, I'm more concerned about them than I'm concerned about the Saints.
Posted on: 19 December 2009 by JamieL_v2
I think Dallas are the only threat to The Saints, and in New Orleans I would think The Saints can get past them. Tampa and Carolina should not be threats.

The real threats to The Saints are Minnesota in the post season, and possibly The Chargers for The Colts.

I still feel that Shula is unfairly negative in wishing other teams to lose their unbeaten positions.

Thursday night's game was really exciting, and now we are seeing teams fight each other for playoff spots, this end of the season is really exciting, and I am hoping for some great playoffs.

As for the UK (probably London), two games next year. I must register my interest for both, hope some others from the forum will be there.
Posted on: 20 December 2009 by MilesSmiles


Defending the Perfect Season

Congrats Dallas, one down - one to go. Based on the last few weeks I really didn't expect the Saints to go perfect ... now the Colts are a whole different story.
Posted on: 20 December 2009 by John M
Raiders! I have to bask in the victory for just a quick second. Who would have thought Russell could come off the bench to lead them to victory. He seemed to be completely uninterested in the game until Frye got hurt. Russell didnt even have a headset on to follow the game. Gradkowski, the injured starter had a clipboard and was taking notes with headset etc. Russell is a total boob, but somehow, even after fumbling his second snap, he pulled it out. I'll take the win as a small bit of salve on a very large wound that is my team.

Cincinatti and San Diego had a real barn burner that took a last second field goal to settle - and the Titans and the Dolphins had a great end to end game too. I really was hoping the Dolphins could pull it out. Even though Henne had his best yardage day ever, he just could not put it away. Looking forward to the Vikings/Panthers tonight.
Posted on: 20 December 2009 by Jet Johnson
Howabout dem Cowboys?! ....never doubted them for a minute .....erm OK mebbe's a teensie bit ..but who said December was our bogey month (Ok I did)

However I do think our kicker does need ...erm' kicking out himself to be truthful.

Meanwhile the dreaded Redskins are up next .. ....but if we can dump the undefeated Saints on their own patch surely the Skin's will be a tad easier? ....roll on the 27th Dec!
Posted on: 24 December 2009 by MilesSmiles
MVP

Manning, Brees ~ Yes
Johnson ~ Unlikely
Favre ~ Pls No

Any others? Rivers maybe.