The metal on the wrist

Posted by: graphoman on 14 August 2003

attn. of Tom Alves

Discussing the disturbing field of tv sets etc. I suggested our active friend Tom Alves to try an old trick of mine. He made a joke of it but at the end he accepted the conditions. I quote him:

Originally posted by graphoman:
“I can’t remember if I’ve suggested a trick you may try. You listen to music first on your usual way, then with a metal ring around your wrist. (Thick copper band is the best, but a few turn of thick copper wire is enough. Even the metal band of a watch would meet the case.) If you think you do percept the difference in A-B test, then you may try it in the presence of another person who don’t know about your trick. (You may stand behind him.) Would you try it?”

Tom’s report:
„OK, as I said I'm game for a laugh. Bands of metal are scarce in our house but I have a metal watch strap so I used that. I listened with and with out the watch on my left wrist sitting over my heart chakra. I repeated the experiment five times to the same piece of music. What did I notice? er, well it was a bit inconclusiveas the effect was quite subtle (a lot more than changing spurs) but overall I would say there was more crispness wearing the watch and more richness without it.
Having said that it really was a profound change nor one that will have me reaching for my watch. If I really did notice the change then I would say the sound changed but not for better or worse, just different presentation. Tom”

Yes, the metal band does have an effect but it obviously can be denied. One can say “the coldness of the metal could give the feeling of cooler sound” or “it’s mere psychedelic” etc. Now let’s play it further:

Imagine your guest listens to your music and you stay behind him. Now you can conduct an A-B blind(!) test when you tell him every time “it’s position A” and “it’s position B”, respectively. Of course, you don’t let him know what the difference between the two conditions is. If he does feel the effect you may inform him subsequently.

I’ve made this experiment with more than 1000 (thousand) persons. Would you try you as well? Then we can comparing notes.

graphoman
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Robbie
In Holland Heineken is referred to as "paardenzeik
Something like horsepiss.

Regards,
Rob.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Bas V
Well Robm you're wrong. Heineken is not called paardenzeik in Holland! Heineken is beer from Holland and they rate it very high (and even drink it on their holidays in other countries). They do call it paardenzeik in the rest of the Netherlands, but that's another discussion I guess...

Regards, Bas
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Robbie
Hi Bas,

Die verrekte hollanders ook !

Regards,
Rob
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Steve Toy
Heineken is ok, it sure beats Stella Artois. The Budvar is clearly superior though, imho.

Name me a few decent Dutch brews?

Grolsch?



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Robbie
Steven,

Grolsch is ok, so are Brand and Hertog Jan.Stella Artois is awful, better try Jupiler instead.
The chzech beers are excellent. Pilsner Urquell,Budvar,Pramovar,Staropramen etc.

Regards,
Rob.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Steve Toy
Marco,

I'll take "Andrew" or Andrew as I find him. Until I have evidence to suggest he's some troll pulling my chain. At the moment he seems like an American version of Paul Ranson. Wink



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by bjorne
quote:
Originally posted by Robbie:
The chzech beers are excellent. Pilsner Urquell,Budvar,Pramovar,Staropramen etc.

Regards,
Rob.
Seconded. Also have a soft spot for german "Pils", there is a lot of excellent beer made in Germany.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Steve Toy
I think we can all agree on the beer front. However not all German beers are excellent - some of them are a little less so. During the year of to-ing and fro-ing between here and Germany that is now concluded, I got to try a few German brews.

In my opinion, The good:

Bischoff Pils or Export

Jever Pils

Lowenbrau

Bitburger (when I was in the mood)

Any of the Weissbiers especially Franziskaner or Paulaner

The not so good

Karlsberg Urpils

Parkbrau

Beck's

Warsteiner



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by prowla
The Belgians make the best beer:

Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by bjorne
Steven Toy, you are a man of
good taste! Agree with you about Jever and Bitburger but I also like Warsteiner. For Weissbier I prefer Hefe Weizen not the clear one.

Prowla, I have been to Belgium few times but did not manage to find the good beers. Just found those strange beers with taste of fruit or the really strong ones. Have you got any suggestions?
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Steve Toy
quote:
For Weissbier I prefer Hefe Weizen not the clear one.




Me too.

Right now I'm drinking Schneider Weisse. It's dark and cloudy. Smile



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 20 August 2003 by Steve Toy
Bjorne,

The best Belgian beer are the really strong ones or the fruit beers.

Then you've got the bieres blanches like Hoegaarden or Blanche de Bruges amongst others. They are similar to the German hefe-weiss beers.

I have yet to find a Belgian pils that I rate.

Stella - no, although the brewed-in-UK version is really awful (imho) and makes the Belgian stuff seem quite nice.

Jupiler - not really.

Loburg - ditto.



Regards,

Steve.