Vinyl to digital ripper

Posted by: Holty on 09 August 2010

Is there a program out there thats recommended?

Steve
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Eloise
Mac or Windows?

For the Mac, Pure Vinyl is a great solution if you have a audio interface (FireWire, etc) which has a good quality Mic pre-amp and a suitable cartridge on your turntable.

Not sure on Windows. Wide range of software from the free Audacity upwards.

The resultant files can then be played on your streamer/computer of choice.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by ferenc
If there is a RIAA corrector or phono amp at home in the system, probably the simplest solution is a recorder like Korg MR1, MR2, MR1000, MR2000 or something Tascam like HD-P2, HS-2 or others from Sonosax, Fostex, Sound Design, etc. They are not cheap, more expensive than the exceptional Pure Vinyl, but much simpler to use.
If you buy a Sonic 302, 304, 305 firewire audio interfaces, you will get a DSP based RIAA as well. TC Konnekt Live has DSP based RIAA as well, mianly for DJs. There are other interfaces as well for phono and A/D comversion.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Dungassin
The way I do it is as follows :

Put the vinyl on my LP12, record on a standalone audio CD recorder (mine's a Denon) using CDRW. You have to use the pukka CDRWs sold for audio recording, but you can use them again and again. I've got half a dozen audio CDRWs sitting on the shelf for this purpose. DON'T erase or reformat them on your PC when you've copied them as below. This is because I find that for some reason this often seems to render them unusable on the audio CD recorder.

I used to have a Philip audio CD recorder, for which there was little "bodge" enabling you to use ordinary CDRs or CDRWs, but alas, this doesn't work on the Denon 1500 I currently use. Frown

Why don't I put the track points on the CDRW as I create it? Well, I'd have to sit there poised to insert them at the appropriate time, and life is too short.

Finalise the CDRW on the audio CD recorder.

Take it to my Windoze laptop. Rip as wav. using whichever software you like. I tend to use the Rip function in Roxio Creator. No particular reason, just what I'm used to.

Then use Audacity (free download). To chop the wav. file into tracks. Save them as wav. if you intend to burn them to ordinary CD, to MP3 etc if you have other ideas. Erase the recordings from your CDRW and proceed to the next LP. Why Audacity? I prefer its editting interface to that in Roxio Creator.

I do the same for ripping cassettes to digital format. I hate to say it, but it's about the only think my Nakamichi is used for these days. Certainly the Nak has put an awful lot of time in copying my Audiobooks into digital format. Winker

A little convoluted, but as SWMBO would "go spare" if I tried to do the recording in the living room where the LP12 lives, it's domestically much more acceptable. Also, IMO the Denon CD recorder has a better ADC than my laptop programs, so the end result is better.

I have also, on occasion, when not doing something like vinyl which needs RIAA equalisation, ripped direct to my laptop. That's using either Roxio Creator or the free Audacity. However, that does tend to tie the laptop up for the duration of the rip. This has usually been when I was dubbing something on my "other" system. (see profile) As an example I used this method when I wanted to get onto CD that lovely Sarah McLachlan song from Toy Story 2. Buggered if I was going to pay for the entire soundtrack for that one song, which never seems to have appeared on any of her albums. If it had been available on its own, I would have bought it.

BTW, if you've never used Audacity, it's one of the best and most useful pieces of free software I've ever come across.

Smile
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Holty
thanks Smile
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Dungassin
BTW, if anyone wants to know how to make the Philips Audio CD Recorders use ordinary CDRs, please let me know, and I will post it here.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Geoff P
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BTW, if anyone wants to know how to make the Philips Audio CD Recorders use ordinary CDRs, please let me know, and I will post it here.

Nice offer but hardly worth it. I use a PHILIPS music CDR. Just like you I have 10 music CD-RWs sitting by the machine. Just rotate them by alternate finalising and then erasing once ripped.

I must admit I don't bother to split LP sides into individual tracks just rip as is. I guess that is because I am so used to listening thru' at least the whole side of an LP. It is bit dodgy trying to raise and lower a wobbly ARO arm for individual track play.

However am looking at devices to give me 192/24 digital direct into the computer. I think Vinyl is worth that effort.

regards
Geoff
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Dungassin
quote:
Nice offer but hardly worth it. I use a PHILIPS music CDR. Just like you I have 10 music CD-RWs sitting by the machine. Just rotate them by alternate finalising and then erasing once ripped.

I must admit I don't bother to split LP sides into individual tracks just rip as is. I guess that is because I am so used to listening thru' at least the whole side of an LP. It is bit dodgy trying to raise and lower a wobbly ARO arm for individual track play.

That's why you use something like Audacity - you split the tracks with it by selecting contents of say "Track 1" from your digital copy of the whole LP side, save it as a separate wav. file ... etc, etc. Smile

Incidentally, why would you need to raise/lower the ARO? Just press the appropriate button on the Philips remote to insert the track break as you're recording it. But, as I said, easier to it afterwards in an editor such as Audacity.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Geoff P
quote:
That's why you use something like Audacity - you split the tracks with it by selecting contents of say "Track 1" from your digital copy of the whole LP side, save it as a separate wav. file ... etc, etc.
Err...I do realise that. i was just explaining why I don't bother even though I have software ( Roxio) that can do it Winker. The point about the ARO was in relation to tha way I normally play LPs and since I am used to listening to a whole side at a time I have no desire to split it into tracks. Cool
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Dungassin
OK. Obviously misunderstood what you meant. Mea culpa.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Geoff P
Big Grin Cool
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Hot Rats
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Originally posted by Dungassin:
BTW, if anyone wants to know how to make the Philips Audio CD Recorders use ordinary CDRs, please let me know, and I will post it here.


I remember that little dodge when I had a Philips Audio CD recorder. You had to watch your fingernails though! It only worked on the older models as well.

I now use a Pioneer recorder and I have a batch of CDR-W discs. I use Steinberg WaveLab to edit.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Skip
Calling js from ProMusica in Chicago.

Their vinyl rips on the HDX sound as good or better than vinyl.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by rich46
quote:
Originally posted by Dungassin:
BTW, if anyone wants to know how to make the Philips Audio CD Recorders use ordinary CDRs, please let me know, and I will post it here.
rip the original cd then put a music cd into drawer ,wait till it reads it. carefully ease the drawer out slowly and replace it with stardard blank cd and push it slowly back, the cd will rip.

i used this method for several years unit i purchased the yamaha 1300 hdd/cd recorder player
Posted on: 10 August 2010 by Dungassin
quote:
rip the original cd then put a music cd into drawer ,wait till it reads it. carefully ease the drawer out slowly and replace it with stardard blank cd and push it slowly back, the cd will rip.

i used this method for several years unit i purchased the yamaha 1300 hdd/cd recorder player

Not quite the way I used to do it. My Philips only had the one drive - not a dual drive. Never used it for copying CDs, only to dub analogue sources. So ...

Insert an Audio CDR or Audio CDRW into the drawer. Close. Carefully open the drawer - DO NOT press the EJECT button! (screwdrive handy if you have no nails, like me) Insert your ordinary CDR or CDRW, and push the drawer closed (again, do not use the EJECT button to close the drawer). Do your recording ...

Presumably if you have the version with CD drive and CDRW drive, you just do the above using the CDRW drive?

Never bothered to do the above myself - just used Audio CDRWs and sorted them out "post production", so to speak. I did lend it to a few friends along with an audio CDRW to "rip" their remaining vinyl (which I often took from them in "payment"), and they tended to use this trick.