Micro Credit:

Absolute bullshit.

Chaps

We all know Fritz is up to his neck in debt and then he comes up with this twaddle. The old slogan of "would you buy a second hand car from Richard Milhouse Nixon" seems to come to mind.

Regards

Mick

I've just been talking to an old mate of mine on the blower who's just returned from a week in London (first time in 16 years). He's a Stock Broker and has been so for 20 odd years and was absolutely dumb-struck by the pace and greed and prices of London compared to here, standard of living basically. I'm just going to enjoy some Canadian smoked salmon with fresh lemon and rye bread for breakfast with an ice cold Bud.



Fritz Von Just finished finally filling out my (40 pages) of legal paperwork for the insolvency court soon and wondered how bad it would be for folks married with kids in a similar situation?

N.B. The beauty of Micro-Credit is that one can obtain it without security, it's run mainly by very strict women who assess the risk of an applicant (mainly women), and decide on those principles. This credit allows people just to get above poverty and a foot into self-sufficiency and not just National, Local, private debt based on interest upon interest compounding remorselessly*

N.B. My friend also commented on how easy it is to get money in the UK, mind-blowingly and dangerously easy in fact*

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I'm just going to enjoy some Canadian smoked salmon with fresh lemon and rye bread for breakfast with an ice cold Bud.

All at the expense of the poor German taxpayer.

This is a reasonable start for those who are interested in learning some reality about their little world*

I suppose Corruption would be the main danger here, but many checks & balances are put in place along those lines to stop local or National officials dipping their fingers in the pot, and PFI type robbery would be impossible fortunately too*


Regards,


Fritz Von I think it was Hillary Benn mentioning it recently also that awoke my original interest from some years back: (He was on Hardtalk if I recall, and obviously was talking about his own personal beliefs etc, and not Govt Policy which would be laughable in this context naturally), Why on earth should Britain give something away without making a profit to no hopers, they never have done so in the past so why should they start now?


Freshly ground black pepper on the fish too is a must*

Where exactly is Middlesborough?

You could always try ZOPA

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Originally posted by JamieWednesday:
You could always try ZOPA

Making money by lending money in that context is not the object of the excercise John. We are referring here to absolutely no middle men, no bits & bobs (all cost extra) we/I am talking about pure and simple in the field (Local finance) with no catches no hooks, no hidden cons and agendas (political or otherwise) down the road 30 years later.


Fritz Von Good try though Son, read my above link and educate yourself, otherwise er, Don't*


The recent Jehova's witness thread I feel was so popular with certain posters (disguised unqualified IFA's etc) because of their persistence and door to door salesman- ship and nothing else*

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Fritz Von Good try though Son, read my above link and educate yourself, otherwise er, Don't*

Well I'm fairly familiar with it through Grameen

However I'm also familiar with the sales ideas of Zopa promoting themselves as the poor man's friend. Sorry to appear a cynic...

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Originally posted by JamieWednesday:

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Fritz Von Good try though Son, read my above link and educate yourself, otherwise er, Don't*

Well I'm fairly familiar with it through Grameen

However I'm also familiar with the sales ideas of Zopa promoting themselves as the poor man's friend. Sorry to appear a cynic...

What are you fairly familiar with me old Sunshine Micro Credit or Zopa (or both)? I like the simple concept of the small local economy growing out of these credits, new loans being made available on the small interest & repayments made to the home-base so to speak with their only being able to grow to a certain size then having to start all over again somewhere else. The mainly women aspect is very noticebale as men basically are not trustworthy enough in these areas of financial dicipline (probably more of a human trait though than a local one), Father Nature has seemingly a lot to answer for innit*


Fritz Von Just had to put on a second pair of socks for the first time, bloody winter's starting early it seems, perhaps I shall have to retire to der auld bauzer instead! and let Parry sup his Malt sulking in his solace without my words of advice *



Goodnight*

Goodbye then Jack Palance I enjoyed your work very much actually Son*


Respect,

Fritz Von Christ that was a bloody hot bath*

"Believe it! Or Not"

So as well as the new hacking & snooping thread which totally coincidentally, has been a major story in the UK this week where a geezer got 10 years for doing exactly that with little girls in various countries (using a Trojan Horse) and I do to be honest find it rather odd with respect that somebody should actually expect such a subject to be openly discussed on an internet forum?



Fritz Von Can anybody tell me how to make a dirty bomb then?, or perhaps next week deadly nerve gas from sticky back plastic and brown paper, I ask you, really Chaps!


P.S. Nothing personal John, just my opinion that's all*

quote:

Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
I said "They... had every right in view of Iraq's refusal to comply with UN Resolutions."

You say "So if the UK gave notice it was going to invade Switzerland next year it would be legal?"
Of course not. But if Switzerland was murdering it citizens, was threatening the UK with WMD, the UN had issued Resolutions and Switzerland had refused to comply and continued its unacceptable behaviour, the yes, it would be legal.
Cheers

Don

So which er, legal system would you be implimenting here then John The Geneva Convention supposedly?


Fritz Von get a Life*

ITALIAN BOY AT CONFESSION



"Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I have been with a loose woman."



The priest asks, "Is that you, little Johnny Parisi?"



"Yes, Father it is."



"And who was the woman you were with?"



"I can't tell you, Father. I don't want to ruin her reputation."



"Well, Johnny, I'm sure t o find out her name sooner or later, so



you may as well tell me now. Was it Tina Minetti?"



"I cannot say."



"Was it Teresa Volpe?"



"I'll never tell."



"Was it Nina Capeli?"



"I'm sorry but I cannot name her."



"Was it Cathy Piriano?"



"My lips are sealed."



"Was it Rosa Di Angelo, then?"



"Please, Father, I cannot tell you."



The priest sighs in frustration. "You're very tight lipped,



Johnny Parisi and I admire that. But you've sinned and have to atone.



You cannot attend church services for 4 months.



Now you go and behave yourself."



Johnny walks back to his pew, and his friend Nino slides over and



whispers, "What'd you get?"



"Four months vacation and five good leads..."


I bet Our Mick's in church today too!

I was hanging on to the back of my Warrior for dear life when I filmed Sadders doing a bunk, on my Mobile phone*

Fritz Von I dreamt I was talking to Our Mick earlier, and I saw his face, orrible it was, I can do without nightmares like that thank you very much, I woke up all of a sweat:


P.S. As from 01.01.07. One can only use a fag machine here once you've put a credit card or some such chipcard in it innit, to prove you're over 16*

You are the only person to dream you are instantly falling, apparently it's energy being burnt off Master, flying is another matter entirely!

N.B. Great to see the stealth firewall etc salespitch merchants in action on the hacking thread, they just never give up do they?

Bit like me really, innit*

Let's just hope that Maj General Parry doesn't get too drunk whilst reminiscing with the Chaps later as you know how he really does go on when he's had a few too many sherberts!


Fritz Von I remember at the Naim BBQ when he openly insulted decent taxpaying wine importing folk who didn't meet up to his own high standards of er, ?


I ain't syin Nuffin John*


Now that England's finally in Europe you'd think all this booze & fags duty crap would be history wouldn't you? and I larfed² Oh how I larfed*

Have you noticed how Guinness farts totally outstink yer averge beer?



Fritz Von Get those windows open at the double Corporal, Strewth:

I hope it's passed by the moaning, I can just imagine letting one of those fly during my interview* Our Mick is quite right I should get off of my fat ass and do something about my financial situation, then I can go out to restaurants and things with the Chaps just like him and really feel like a useful member of society, so with a bit of luck I should hopefully get nearer to this aim by tomorrow lunchtime*

I suppose that one when remembers that the US owes hundreds of millions of dollars in arrears to the UN, doesn't recognise the Hague Court of Justice, but quotes the so-called breaking of er, UN Resolutions as justification to do just about whatever it wants worldwide, barring er, Israel that is which breaks many er, UN Resolutions annually, I simply see no argument whatso'ever and those that continually pander to these falsehoods are fools, and those that contunually pander to these falsehoods and are in relative positions of power are not only fools but dangerous and extremely hypocritical ones at that, innit*


Fritz Von Talking Shops are nothing more than talking shops where often absolutely nothing is known about nothing, yet everybody prefers to pretend the exact opposite to suit their own agendas*


Nothing new there then*

I do believe Micro Credit is working, but, in the World today more than one "Billion People" earn less than $1.00 a day, these people don't figure at all in the food equation.

We've actually got a situation now, where 1 Billion are suffering from "hunger", and 1 Billion suffering from "obesity".


What this means is that ending hunger requires doing away with poverty, or, at the very least, ensuring that people have enough money or the means to acquire it, to buy, and hence create a market demand for food.

Beano, When money talks, the poor have no voice!

Beano,

Well said.

Acad

Yunus must be doing something right if iirc did he not win the NoBull prize a while ago?

Beano & Our Acad me old Darlins, similarly I've also posted utpoian simplistic equations on certain subjects, but on this one I'm afraid you're both totally wrong and falling very snugly into the Parry way of seeing things. Nobody in the world affected by obesity has ever died of hunger and nobody in third world hunger regions has been dangerously obese. Things are relative naturally and a dollar in Berlin goes much further than a dollar in London when buying bread & potatos. The hundreds of millions of lives that are presently being improved by microcredit is there for everybody to see, which perhaps can be obtusely compared to the lives of western poverty stricken folk after the Great War who suddenly found far more freedom in their lives. The Wall street crash and subseqent depression was inspired by greed, and one wonders in it's absence if WWII had ever actually had occurred, because I'm always slightly sceptical about the real reason for UK's entry into it, and the US's very late action speaks for itself (lest we forget)



Fritz Von Never mind the fresh drinking water of course*


P.S. Sorry I don't get that last post if it's addressed in my direction?


N.B. My stock-broker friend recently loved the aspect that Berlin-London & back cost �26 EasyJet, one way bus ticket Stanstead - LOndon, er, �16 you couldn't make it up*

Beano me old sausage, Kissinger should have been indicted years ago for crimes against humanity but he wasn't. It may have escaped certain peoples notice but a certain General has recently been re-elected in Nicuagua and have we seen any real coverage on the er, media? Have we fuck! It might be an idea to remember Iran/Contra (Rumsfeld Saddam, etc, and the CIA's (Bush Senior etc) contribution in the deaths of well over 60,000 innocent people in the region at Our expense.


Fritz Von This happenned recently Chaps*

Fritz what I'm trying to convey is this...Food is a commodity, and like many markets, this food is available to those who can afford it, not necessarily those who need it. Most food is produced to meet consumer demands, and not the poor or hungry.

I'm in total support of Micro Credit and it's benefits are clearly evident, but to solve World hunger would mean richer nations cutting some major slack in debt relief, and a sea change in their economic policies etc etc.

You wouldn't get Nike making and flogging trainers to people who are only earning a dollar a day, or Cross and Blackwell producing food and selling for only a $1.00 market.

It pisses me off that governments make promises to help the Third world, but in reality they couldn't give a flying fig about them!

Beano maintains that when money talks, the poor have no voice! and I suppose it does sound parryesqe, so I'll say spectacles testicles wallet watch a few times later.

Fritz Von Job Hunter,

Good luck in the interview tomorrow!

Beano