Experimenting with Wooden Isolation feet
Posted by: Captain-Kopter on 12 February 2004
I've seen wooden cones out there for phenomenal amounts of money promising huge sound improvements.
I was thinking of buying a job lot of wooden door handles and trying them instead.
Anyone tried a similar experiment?
Why would an oak cone be better than a small beech/oak/pine door handle?
I was thinking of buying a job lot of wooden door handles and trying them instead.
Anyone tried a similar experiment?
Why would an oak cone be better than a small beech/oak/pine door handle?
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by Rasher
There have been a few experiments like this, but I have seen the oak cone stuff for sale too, and you are right about the bloody ridiculous prices. Cupboard knobs are a good idea. The harder the wood the better, I would guess.
Please post your findings - Oh, and welcome to the forum Captain
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by joe90
At least with wooden door handles you can use them on a door after you've finished with them.
Which will be the time it takes for a gnat to bat an eyelid.
Joe90
Which will be the time it takes for a gnat to bat an eyelid.
Joe90
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by Captain-Kopter
Why do you say that Joe?
Have you tried them. Why would something with a 'name' on it be better than a 'tweak'?
Or do you reckon the ££££ ones are crappy too.
Have you tried them. Why would something with a 'name' on it be better than a 'tweak'?
Or do you reckon the ££££ ones are crappy too.
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by joe90
I haven't personally tried them but I know someone who did (who's fairly sane and reliable) and he thought they made absolutely no difference to his Naim CD player. I've tried sorbothane feet and it did make a huge difference: It went from looking stylish to looking totally daft.
If Naim thought little wooden feet worked, they'd supply 'em.
spending big pounds or dollars on 'tweeks' is better off spent on A. Music B. More music C. save up the tweek money and buy a Fraim.
Joe90
If Naim thought little wooden feet worked, they'd supply 'em.
spending big pounds or dollars on 'tweeks' is better off spent on A. Music B. More music C. save up the tweek money and buy a Fraim.
Joe90
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by Furnace
Captain-Caveman,
It would be good however to see a picture of your HiFi on top
of the door knobs, so don't be put off, buy the job lot and get everything
on those bad boys. remember to post a picture.
It would be good however to see a picture of your HiFi on top
of the door knobs, so don't be put off, buy the job lot and get everything
on those bad boys. remember to post a picture.
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by Steve Toy
Sorbathane feet made a HUGE difference to my Naim CD5 when I had one...
They shrunk the soundstage and killed the groove and tune.
Cone feet may act differently though.
Regards,
Steve.
They shrunk the soundstage and killed the groove and tune.
Cone feet may act differently though.
Regards,
Steve.
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by bdnyc
In the US high end community, Ayre Acoustics from Colorado did some experiments that led them to conclude that wood blocks are a good idea. They found that Myrtle is the best sounding material, and they sell small myrtle blocks for $ 5 each, at least here in the US. In an Ayre system, they certainly did more than justify their price. I have also heard of people who believe Maple to be a good sounding wood, so you might experiment with one of those woods if they are readily available in your neck of the woods.
Good listening!
Good listening!
Posted on: 12 February 2004 by joe90
Does the Captain own a Naim CD player or does he own an Ayre Acoustics?
If I have to have stupid looking bits of timber under my CD player, then no thanks.
Joe90
If I have to have stupid looking bits of timber under my CD player, then no thanks.
Joe90
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by greeny
quote:
Why would an oak cone be better than a small beech/oak/pine door handle?
And why would Fraim Chips be better than a coin, and why would Mana be better than Sound Org...... etc etc.
The manufacturers will no doubt tell you they have experimented with numberous different woods, sizes, shapes etc to get the best sound, hence the price. Whether you believe them is up to you
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by Sean Woods
quote:
Originally posted by bdnyc:
In the US high end community, Ayre Acoustics from Colorado did some experiments that led them to conclude that wood blocks are a good idea. They found that Myrtle is the best sounding material, and they sell small myrtle blocks for $ 5 each, at least here in the US. In an Ayre system, they certainly did more than justify their price. I have also heard of people who believe Maple to be a good sounding wood, so you might experiment with one of those woods if they are readily available in your neck of the woods.
Good listening!
I use myrtle wooden blocks on my CDX and Pre and found these do make a difference. I’ am in the UK and purchased these from The Audio Room (East Yorkshire)
If anyone is interested here is the link for Ayre’s web site.
http://www.ayre.com/products/cuboids.htm
Sean
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by Captain-Kopter
I think just to spite Joe90's sneering I'll give the little wooden button door handles a go.
Worst case scenario I'll have spent £3.00 on some firewood.
I don't have a camera but I'll let you know how thay sound under my 3.5.
Should be a bit of a laugh anyway.
Worst case scenario I'll have spent £3.00 on some firewood.
I don't have a camera but I'll let you know how thay sound under my 3.5.
Should be a bit of a laugh anyway.
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by u5227470736789524
Currently using four Shun Mook Mpingo discs to support my CD3 (logo contacting the cdp and dots facing forward
). Very pleased with the results.
Recall a number of posts on this forum from people having good results with sorbothane. Presumably each situation is unique and we each must find our own satisfying results.
Have fun.
Jeff A
Recall a number of posts on this forum from people having good results with sorbothane. Presumably each situation is unique and we each must find our own satisfying results.
Have fun.
Jeff A
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by greeny
quote:
Recall a number of posts on this forum from people having good results with sorbothane. Presumably each situation is unique and we each must find our own satisfying results.
You will find an equal (or probably greater) number of people who have tried sorbothane and hate it.
However, as you say, each situation is unique so who knows
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by prowla
I'm using Stands Unique carbon isolators at the moment and they definitely make an improvement.
(I was thinking that if Linn might make wooden feet they could call them klogs!)
Paul Rowlands
(I was thinking that if Linn might make wooden feet they could call them klogs!)
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by u5227470736789524
quote:
You will find an equal (or probably greater) number of people who have tried sorbothane and hate it.
However, as you say, each situation is unique so who knows
Agreed. My observations of posts would conclude the successes are with the lower end cdp ie,CD3,CD5 etc. The suspensions in the upper level models may be superior and not need additional isolation (other than rack, etc). I have used sorbothane under my cdp when I am using the VA Hayden speakers for my best results with those speakers.
With my Linaeum speakers, I prefer the Shun Mook discs, which for clarification if needed, are made of wood (ebony).
Good listenin'
Jeff A
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by joe90
"I think just to spite Joe90's sneering I'll give the little wooden button door handles a go."
Hehe. It's not sneering, it's dismay!
I wanna see that photo of your CD player with door handles underneath it too.
Joe90
Hehe. It's not sneering, it's dismay!
I wanna see that photo of your CD player with door handles underneath it too.
Joe90