Anyone think this is a fitting memorial to the dead of Hillsborough?
Posted by: Blueknowz on 17 November 2009
I think it is very disturbing!

Posted on: 17 November 2009 by Staedtler
How totally inappropriate and disgusting too.
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by scottyhammer
Blueknowz,
Any idea where they are thinking of putting this monstrosity ?
Scotty
Any idea where they are thinking of putting this monstrosity ?

Scotty
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by Blueknowz
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by MilesSmiles
quote:Originally posted by munch:
Horrid looking thing.
+1
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by Steve Bull
The idea of a memorial - yes, fine. But that? omg. No.
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by Mat Cork
Hard to think of what would be worse than that.
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by BigH47
quote:Originally posted by MilesSmiles:quote:Originally posted by munch:
Horrid looking thing.
+1
+2 , a memorial yes not that though.
A comment on the article "would it be appropriate to model the remains of a holocaust victim in an oven"?
Posted on: 18 November 2009 by scottyhammer
Bet the designer didnt bother to get the views of the people......otherwise i feel it would not have made it off the drawing board.
bloody awful.
bloody awful.

Posted on: 18 November 2009 by Guido Fawkes
agreedquote:bloody awful.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by Howlinhounddog
A fitting memorial for what happened at Hillsborough?
Many of the families would now consider justice as a fitting memorial.
The lasting legacy of that day is that English football grounds are now some of the best and safest in the world.
As a football fan I have had the pleasure of watching football all over the planet (Anyone else seen India v. Pakistan Football international?) and England can be rightly proud of their stadia.
For too long before Hillsborough football teams treated the majority of supporters like cattle. When I hear calls for a return to terraces I shudder in disbelief.
Many of the families would now consider justice as a fitting memorial.
The lasting legacy of that day is that English football grounds are now some of the best and safest in the world.
As a football fan I have had the pleasure of watching football all over the planet (Anyone else seen India v. Pakistan Football international?) and England can be rightly proud of their stadia.
For too long before Hillsborough football teams treated the majority of supporters like cattle. When I hear calls for a return to terraces I shudder in disbelief.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by BigH47
It wasn't the terraces that was at fault, it was too many people, too quickly in them, ie policing of them.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by fatcat
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
It wasn't the terraces that was at fault, it was too many people, too quickly in them, ie policing of them.
Poor policing may have contributed to the death toll, BUT the catalyst for the disaster was football fans.
If the statue tell the story of the days events, why doesn’t it depict supporters trying to force open the gates.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by BigH47
quote:If the statue tell the story of the days events, why doesn’t it depict supporters trying to force open the gates.
..and the police beating them back?
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by fatcat
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:quote:If the statue tell the story of the days events, why doesn’t it depict supporters trying to force open the gates.
..and the police beating them back?
Yes
Depicting the efforts of the police to avert the disaster would be a good idea.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by BigH47
Well they (the Police) caused it in the first place,by allowing the gate behind the stand to be opened and if they had opened the gates on the pitch fewer would have died.
Of course then you wouldn't have the new shiny characterless yuppie targeted stadia we have now.
You a policeman or do you just hate Liverpool fans that much?
Of course then you wouldn't have the new shiny characterless yuppie targeted stadia we have now.
You a policeman or do you just hate Liverpool fans that much?
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by JWM
quote:Originally posted by fatcat:quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
It wasn't the terraces that was at fault, it was too many people, too quickly in them, ie policing of them.
Poor policing may have contributed to the death toll, BUT the catalyst for the disaster was football fans.
If the statue tell the story of the days events, why doesn’t it depict supporters trying to force open the gates.
Controversial pov there Fatcat, given that the inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, named the cause as failure of police control.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by Howlinhounddog
So, we're agreed then, the Taylor Report made vast improvements to all stadia in this country.
If you go to a semi final and expect to see all the match arrive early. This would remove the pressure on senior police officers to order the opening of gates to avert a crush problem, only for the problem to be exaserbated by (many) intoxicated people taking the path of least resistance into the ground.
There were,I'm sure we agree many contributing factors leading to the disaster.
Getting back to the point. This is a pretty tasteless memorial.
HHD
If you go to a semi final and expect to see all the match arrive early. This would remove the pressure on senior police officers to order the opening of gates to avert a crush problem, only for the problem to be exaserbated by (many) intoxicated people taking the path of least resistance into the ground.
There were,I'm sure we agree many contributing factors leading to the disaster.
Getting back to the point. This is a pretty tasteless memorial.
HHD
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by Jet Johnson
quote:Originally posted by Howlinhounddog:
So, we're agreed then, the Taylor Report made vast improvements to all stadia in this country.
If you go to a semi final and expect to see all the match arrive early. This would remove the pressure on senior police officers to order the opening of gates to avert a crush problem, only for the problem to be exaserbated by (many) intoxicated people taking the path of least resistance into the ground.
There were,I'm sure we agree many contributing factors leading to the disaster.
Getting back to the point. This is a pretty tasteless memorial.
HHD
I know this has been discussed too many times possibly but ...the bottom line is Liverpool fans on the day behaved no differently to any other fans of any other British club so often did (still do?)i.e. getting to the ground late having had a skinful at the pub until the last minute... ...it's what so many fans do ...but no-one could have predicted the horrible outcome on that sad afternoon.
Posted on: 19 November 2009 by Blueknowz
Friends of mine who were there on the day said the the pens either side of the section directly behind the goal were almost empty of fans!!