Weiss , Amarra and Me .
Posted by: AS332 on 12 December 2009
First of all , thank you to all the forum members who have offered their advice over the last few days on the other thread , I decided to start a new thread to let you know how I have been getting on .
At the beginning of the week as the Weiss arrived I had worrying thoughts about how I would sell my lavry and is it wise to be forking out in the region of £2000 just before Christmas . Here we are at the end of the week and the Weiss and the Amarra software are back in the box wrapped up ready to be shipped back to Purite !
Unfortunately as far as the Amarra / Amarra Mini software was concerned , in my system I just could not tell any difference at all .
The annoying thing is that I really wanted to .
First off with the Lavry and then with the Weiss , I played whole tracks , turned the software on and off during tracks , reinstalled the software and even moved the dongle about !
If anyone has any ideas I would be interested to hear them . Maybe I'm just a bit odd .
On to the Weiss DAC2 , lovely bit of kit . Good full and rich sound and very easy to listen to. The only problem is that it is £1800 and as good as it is , and it is good , to me it just highlighted how good the Lavry is for the money.
The lavry has been plugged back in since last night and the sound is fantastic . If the Weiss had been £1000 then I would have had no doubts but in the end I'm still a Yorkshireman and it's a lot of cash .
A couple of hours a Friend brought round a Power-Line and that has made a difference to the sound , I don't think he is getting it back!
Anyway , that is just my own opinion on my system but an interesting week .
Ed
At the beginning of the week as the Weiss arrived I had worrying thoughts about how I would sell my lavry and is it wise to be forking out in the region of £2000 just before Christmas . Here we are at the end of the week and the Weiss and the Amarra software are back in the box wrapped up ready to be shipped back to Purite !
Unfortunately as far as the Amarra / Amarra Mini software was concerned , in my system I just could not tell any difference at all .
The annoying thing is that I really wanted to .
First off with the Lavry and then with the Weiss , I played whole tracks , turned the software on and off during tracks , reinstalled the software and even moved the dongle about !
If anyone has any ideas I would be interested to hear them . Maybe I'm just a bit odd .
On to the Weiss DAC2 , lovely bit of kit . Good full and rich sound and very easy to listen to. The only problem is that it is £1800 and as good as it is , and it is good , to me it just highlighted how good the Lavry is for the money.
The lavry has been plugged back in since last night and the sound is fantastic . If the Weiss had been £1000 then I would have had no doubts but in the end I'm still a Yorkshireman and it's a lot of cash .
A couple of hours a Friend brought round a Power-Line and that has made a difference to the sound , I don't think he is getting it back!
Anyway , that is just my own opinion on my system but an interesting week .
Ed
quote:Originally posted by paremus:
Folks
Clarification from Sonic Studios. Amarra with Mac > optical out to DAC works.
Now whether there is a discernible difference in this configuration is another question. For example I felt there was in my system (by no means obvious) - but could tell no difference with Lavry in narrow/Xtal.
Now with the HiFace / Coax in mix the difference is more significant and I also have a clear preference for the Lavry in narrow.
Ed interested in your thoughts if you give it another go.
Cheers
Richard
Man, I wish there were posts like this about a year ago when I was speaking about the limits of computer OS/TOS and crystal setting and getting ripped a new one for it by owners that knew it was bit perfect.
I recall everyone ripping the way the dem was done because they didn't like the result yet in our setup and more informative sources we could clearly hear the dif between narrow and crystal. Hmmm. Always room for difference of opinion(unless mine
) but we obviously weren't compromised. Nice to see us all coming together on what sorts of things work regardless of preferences. 
JS
I was waiting for this
My stance was and still is that IMO the Lavry / MAC is preferable to my CDSII - which I still own (its like a classic car). I don't think I claimed anything else - but the threads have been lost :-/
IMO with the HiFace - Coax is clearly better than optical and I concur narrow is better. So your were right on these points IMO.
But this just reinforces my view w.r.t. the Lavry - and widens the gap w.r.t my CDSII!
I'm hoping to listen to the NAIM DAC real soon. I'm hoping my front end configuration into the NAIM DAC will make it fly. But as always I'll go in with an open mind.
Cheers
Richard
I was waiting for this
My stance was and still is that IMO the Lavry / MAC is preferable to my CDSII - which I still own (its like a classic car). I don't think I claimed anything else - but the threads have been lost :-/
IMO with the HiFace - Coax is clearly better than optical and I concur narrow is better. So your were right on these points IMO.
But this just reinforces my view w.r.t. the Lavry - and widens the gap w.r.t my CDSII!
I'm hoping to listen to the NAIM DAC real soon. I'm hoping my front end configuration into the NAIM DAC will make it fly. But as always I'll go in with an open mind.
Cheers
Richard
No problem and the preference is your own and accepted. I also don't recall most of those that rose up against me or if you had unkind words. I'm just happy to see these types of posts and the response wasn't directed at you personally.
It's was the dismisal of my observations, opinion and competance being called to question (because everything was bit perfect) that I was referring to when I came up with the same obsevation as you just did. I don't expect us to like the same things but it's great if we can agree to approach this from the same direction. Though not everyone here agrees, many have moved away from Itunes, tos, OS mixers and stock rips. You preferred it to a CDP with the original configuration and I didn't. No problem there. Agreement was never a requirement. I said at the time that we would all eventually grow closer on this as it seemed apparent to me that most would hear the basic configuration stuff eventually. It may not guide an absolute preference of kit as we don't all like the same things but most will appreciate a better stream when properly presented with it.
It's was the dismisal of my observations, opinion and competance being called to question (because everything was bit perfect
) that I was referring to when I came up with the same obsevation as you just did. I don't expect us to like the same things but it's great if we can agree to approach this from the same direction. Though not everyone here agrees, many have moved away from Itunes, tos, OS mixers and stock rips. You preferred it to a CDP with the original configuration and I didn't. No problem there. Agreement was never a requirement. I said at the time that we would all eventually grow closer on this as it seemed apparent to me that most would hear the basic configuration stuff eventually. It may not guide an absolute preference of kit as we don't all like the same things but most will appreciate a better stream when properly presented with it.Some things are just a better way but it doesn't necessarily equate to better in a given circuit as there are always other factors also influencing a setup. This however, isn't shooting blind but end result is what ultimately matters.