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Posted by: Markus on 21 January 2002

Just thought it would be fun to have a thread where we could post our most-cherished John Coltrane tunes. The "Jazz: The New Dance Music" thread got me feeling warm and pleasant feelings about Coltrane and motivated to revisit some of my favorites.

Here then, to kick things off, are some of my favorites:

From the "Gentle Side of John Coltrane" album, Wise One and Lush Life

Exotica

Looking forward to your postings...

Markus

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by woodface
I think the whole 'Lush Life' album is fantastic and I strongly urge you to hear the album he did with Johnny Hartman. My favourite coltrane album is probably 'Love Supreme', it took me an age to get into but I find it so rewarding.
Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Former member
A tune I know well from my childhood that Coltrain improvises on for approx. 20 min. (On the album of the same name). I can play it over and over again.

Not as important as some his other work but I love it!

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by stephenjohn
Some years ago, 1996, I was given a tape which had 'Miles and John Live in Stockholmm 1960' written on the side. 'Trane was wonderful, truly amazing, managed to make the sax sound like was alive and he was squeezing it, hard, to make it scream. I've tried to buy a CD of it but can't locate one. Can any one help? Other than that it's Love Supreme for me.
Steve
Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Markus
Definately one of the best. I've heard it said that on this album the real star is the producer, who had the good sense to bring the two artists together, get out of the way and let them make music. One of my favorites and thanks for mentioning it.

Markus

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by ken c
Coltrane and Hartman

Definately one of the best.

yes, i agree -- and i remember enthusing about this very record on the old forum.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Former member
Hi,Markus

It all depends on mood of course,but Alabama,one of the two studio tracks[recorded Nov'63]on Coltrane live at Birdland[IMPULSE]does it for me.
The music starts out calm,peaceful even,waning to a moment's silence mid way,sounding like the band have lost their way.Or maybe,it's a mark of respect for the four children killed at a black church in that state.Very moving.

Dave

[This message was edited by tmwinon on TUESDAY 22 January 2002 at 05:02.]

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Former member
I much prefer the Prestige and Atlantic sides of 'Trane, and the stuff he did with Miles. Some fav tracks would be "Naima", "Like Sonny" and all the tracks on Kind of Blue. One of my favorite albums is Coltrane Jazz. Not too crazy about My Favorite Things though.

The Impulse Ballads and With Johnny Hartmann are good accessible introductions to the sometimes difficult music of late Trane and are effective romantic/seduction music.

The Miles/Coltrane live recordings at Stockholm were done when the quartet was just breaking up. It was one of the last things Trane did with Miles and contains some wonderful music. The original came out as a 2 record set on Dragon Records.

I believe it has been recently reissued on CD under an European (French?) label.

Hockman

Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Former member
A great album that people sometimes overlook. It shows a different side of the Quartet with Roy Haynes on drums. Dear Lord in particular is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever recorded. I guess Love Supreme is my other favorite. I remember when I first heard it, it gave me such a peaceful feeling I fell asleep. I can't find a good copy on vinyl The one Impulse has issued most recently has been digitally remastered, which is kind of defeats the purpose of listening to analog media(for me anyway). The latest period of his stuff I'm not into yet, I guess I'm not ready for it. Transition is great but albums like Meditations are hard to grasp, I prefer the sound of the quartet. He was going for something though. If i get one more favorite I would pick Bags&Trane(with Milt Jackson). I'm a huge Milt Jackson fan but for me this album has more Trane on it. Ryan
Posted on: 21 January 2002 by Peter Stockwell
I never thought I'd ever want to listen to that tune, I never thought I'd ever want to see Julie Andrews with her clothes off, but that's another thread.

I also really like 'Crescent', which I found took me longer to appreciate than the later 'A Love Supreme'. In retrospect I think that 'Crescent' is easier than 'A Love Supreme' but I was primed for ALS by the Santana/Mclaughlin version, which is a tune I love to play loud.

I must be lucky, my wife told me I could never play enough Coltrane, but she still doesn't like Frank Zappa smile

Peter

Posted on: 22 January 2002 by fred simon
My favorite Trane sides:

Giant Steps

Crescent

Blue Train

A Love Supreme

Coltrane (with Soul Eyes and Out of This World)

Live At the Village Vanguard

Posted on: 22 January 2002 by woodface
I think the standout track on the trane/hartman record is lush life. No matter how many times I hear it it still moves me. I believe this is a Billy Strayhorn composition (as an aside I strongly urge you all to by 'and his mother called him Bill', this is a tribute to the great man from the greatest man of all Duke Ellington! The Johnny Hodges solos on this record will make you weep they are so moving). Blue Trane is also a fantastic record, I love the opening track when Trane just goes on one and it sounds like all the band are trying to cut in.
Posted on: 22 January 2002 by bigtrak
Try

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001ZU3K/104-1140001-5715152

or

http://www.101cd.com/index.asp?s=&dept=&sctn=&action=search

At the lower part of the page there is a section for import albums theres a couple mentioned in there.

Posted on: 22 January 2002 by Todd A
I have yet to hear any John Coltrane I do not like. I have the Mobile Fidelity Giant Steps and just love it. Here's one case where an audiophile disc is worth the money. A Love Supreme, Blue Train, and Thelonius Monk and John Coltrane round out my Coltrane discs and I would be hard pressed to select a favorite. I hear other pieces on the local jazz station here and there and those are rather fine, too.
Posted on: 22 January 2002 by Former member
While reportedly very good "The Major Works of John Coltrane" (Ascension, OM, Kulu Se Mama) is still well beyond me. But I'll keep trying!
Posted on: 22 January 2002 by stephenjohn
FAO Bigtrak

That's Great. I will buy it now. Thanks.

Steve [Stephenjohn]

Posted on: 23 January 2002 by John C
Ascension and Africa Brass for me.

John..

Posted on: 23 January 2002 by ken c
"heavyweight champion - complete atlantic recordings".

thimply the betht... playing "equinox" right now.

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 24 January 2002 by Former member
OK - my system is designed around 'making the Trane talk' so I just luurve jumping on this goods wagon.

Actually Fred's list almost does it for me. Close anyway. My faves..

1) His pairing with Cannonball on KOB
2) Blue Train
3) A love supreme
4) Giant Steps
5) Live at the VV
6) Lush Life
7) Late Davis quintet+ stuff - just pre him leaving and the KOB session

I've recently picked up vinyl (just got a source) of Soultrane and the Columbia Miles & Coltrane. Deck being serviced... can't wait.

Jonathan

Posted on: 25 January 2002 by Former member
trane fan

one that doesnt seem to appear much is 'afro blue'. there's an album (live at village gate?) with this track, a song by monga santamaria. and there's an album(stockholm live c. 61), with this name, with a 20+ minute, rather furious version of 'my favourite things'.

btw. on the album 'my fav things', i think the title track is only 13 minutes long?

ryan, agree totally on 'dear old stockholm'. it was my wake up to music, relax for sleep music and everything for a long time. i believe the last track was played at coltrane's wake/funeral, possibly by roland kirk(?, in the trane biography by porter)

all, pls go and get 'afro blue'

shahreza

Posted on: 26 January 2002 by Former member
Hi Stephen[B],try Trane's head to head with Pharoah on Live at the Village Vanguard Again[Impulse]. It's still powerful,but not as overwhelming as Ascension [IMHO].

best

Dave

Posted on: 26 January 2002 by Former member
Get all his records. JC is a genious.

But if I had to choose :

Live at Birdland, "Alabama"
A Love Supreme
Coltrane, "Out of this World"
JC & Kenny Burrell, "Why was I born?"

El Lingo
Linnland forum

Posted on: 26 January 2002 by Former member
John Coltrane's web site

El Lingo
Linnland forum

Posted on: 27 January 2002 by Former member
OK, I confess I am a Coltrane nut. I love the Hartman recordings, Africa Brass, Kulu Se Mama, Alabama, Love Supreme, Ole, etc. I even visited his grave once in Pinelawn Cemetary Long Island (it's just a brass plaque in the ground).

But for me, the best Coltrane tune has to be Compassion off the First Meditations album, recorded with the quartet in 1965. In many ways, this is a fake album put together by Impulse to cash in on Trane. He recorded Meditations twice within three months and released only the second set of expanded tunes, with an expanded lineup. I don't believe he intended to ever release what Impulse called First Meditations.

But the version of Compassion on this album marks a seminal change in my life. I have to tell the story.

It was about 1980 and I was in my early twenties. I had been into jazz for some four or five years, arefugee from the rock world, with my taste all completely self-taught. I was into Roland Kirk, Don Byrd, Charles Mingus, Sonny Rollins, John Coltrane, etc. It was a Friday night and I was waiting for someone, a girl I think, to visit me in my apartment. While I was waiting I put this new Trane album onto my LP12, and wound up my Electro Research A75 so it pushed my double Magenepans to the limit.

Compassion starts with a lyrical waltz opening solo and then just explodes from there. I liked Trane when I sat down to listen to First Meditations that night, but somehwere in the first few bars of Compassion, I suddenly understood him, and everything he was trying to say. It was like I suddenly could think in fluentn French (something I've always longed to do). The track finished, I played the other side, and then I started on the rest of my Coltrane collection. The girl came and went in the middle of this, I don't really remember her reaction, and I continued playing Coltrane through to about four in the morning. It was a watershed for me. I had learnt his language.

Even though, for one reason or another, I haven't been able to play my vinyl First Meditations for about five years, I can still play it more or less note for note in my head, and even the thought of those opening bars raises the hair on my neck.

If you can, try to listen to it: Compassion, First Meditations, Impulse As-9332. Let me know what you think.

K

Posted on: 28 January 2002 by Former member
epiphany

i bought the first impressions in december, very expensive mint LP. haven't listened to it. i dont have the 2nd impressions. i was told by the record shop that it was more like take 1 and take 2. i don't know why i picked '1'. maybe cos everyone will be listening to '2' as the 'correct' takes that coltrane approved off. but '1' cant have been bad.

but i now will listen to it once i get home!

ps. i preferred 'baraka', but then i watched 'baraka' bfore i did 'koyaanisqatsi'

personally believe mccoy tyner's lyricism and chording while he accompanied JC was a very important part of the magic.

s.

Posted on: 22 March 2002 by stephenjohn
Hi
I've just received Love Supreme [played live in Antibes 1965] from Amazon at a budget price of £4.99. Wonderful. Amazing. The best bargain ever. Ever. I'm still stunned.
Steve