Wiremold Strip with Extension Cord?

Posted by: Ross Hahn on 28 November 2003

Due to a sudden emergency (water dripping from the ceiling) I have to move my modest system. Everything's plugged into the standard NANA endorsed Wiremold strip. Unfortunately the cord attached tp the Wiremold isn't long enough for me to move the system to where it needs to go. How much of a sonic penalty can expect if I use the Wiremold with a decent extension cord? Would I be better off with just the cord (with three plugs on the end)? Any recommendations for extension cords available in Canada would be welcome too. Many thanks.
Posted on: 28 November 2003 by Onthlam
Ross,
It sounds like this might be a problem that will be fixed?
Then you go back to what you were doing...

There will be a sonic problem for now but, in the end, it will all be back to norm
Posted on: 28 November 2003 by Ross Hahn
Yeah, you'd think that it would be temporary but given the fact that we can't find any roofers in Toronto willing to climb to the top of a 3 floor Victorian in the cold November rain and that winter is about to set in for good (snow tonight) we may not get this fixed for good until spring. That's many months from now! I guess I'll just have to try it and see.
Posted on: 28 November 2003 by Manu
I understand your problem, same think in Montreal: I signed a contract to change my roof last May, they just came last week. My system is now safe (but at what price...almost a NAP500)
Good luck.

For the extension cord, buy a contractor quality one, AWG 14 with a decent female plug. Or better, if you have some knowledge in electricity, DIY. Use a AWG 10 2 wire+ground, exterior box (sealed for safety), industrial or hospital grade socket and a Hubbel plug. This can be better than your in wall wire.

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
Posted on: 28 November 2003 by kuma
Ross,

Sonic disadvatages asides, it can limit the corrent delivery to the amp, and further more, can damage the speaker by not having enough power going.
( actually this happened to my friend's system altho, it was not Wiremold power strip )
BTW, it was Krell integrated. But knowing how robust Naim amps are, you might have the same problem.

If this is temporary, I think you are better off getting a power strip without a captive power cord and use a longer power cord instead.
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by Ross Hahn
Manu, that must be an amazing roof you've got there. I've had quotes as high as $15,000 which I thought was ridiculous enough. I'll definitely consider your DIY advice. Maybe it would actually sound better than the Wiremold unit. Kuma, is your concern about limiting current delivery due to the extension cord maybe being too thin or some kind of bottleneck where the Wiremold male plug meets the extension female? It's only a NAP90 anyway although I hope to replace it with something in the NAP140, 150, 160, 180 range.
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by kuma
quote:
Kuma, is your concern about limiting current delivery due to the extension cord maybe being too thin or some kind of bottleneck where the Wiremold male plug meets the extension female? It's only a NAP90 anyway although I hope to replace it with something in the NAP140, 150, 160, 180 range.


Ross,

Both. I don't know how loud you listen to the music, I'd be worried. Red Face
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by bec143
Is this serious?

I use a Wiremold strip, and while it's fine, I don't think it differs significantly from a good heavy duty extension cord as far as the cord goes.

BEC
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by bec143:
Is this serious?


Yep. Nothing good happens when you add more connectors. Using power strip is bad enough. I don't know about the Wiremold, but most powerstrip/filter I've tried might have lowerd the noise floor but killed the music along with it.
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by Manu
Kuma,
The Wiremold is the North America "standard" for Naim gears. It has nothing like switches, bulb, filters and so. It doesn't kill the Naim sound.

The DIY solution i offer is nothing less than an out-off-the-wall regular AC line.

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
Posted on: 29 November 2003 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by Manu:
Kuma,
The Wiremold is the North America "standard" for Naim gears. It has nothing like switches, bulb, filters and so. It doesn't kill the Naim sound.


But given the choice, I'd still prefer to plug gear directly to the wall outlets with dedicated lines.

Sounds like Wiremold is one of those few that does not alter the signal. They do exist but very rare.
Posted on: 17 December 2003 by Craig B
Ross,

A bit late to the party, but I would just like to add that I too use the Wiremold in question and have on occasion run a heavy duty extension cord between it and other rings as well as to my electric stove which includes a 15amp fused socket directly hanging off a 40amp MCB dedicated mains feed (the closest thing to a dedicated spur for basic comparison purposes - if not a very practical arrangement long term).

To say that the latter arrangement sounds better than when the Wiremold is plugged directly into a ring socket would be an understatement (and my mains sounds pretty good as is now that the distribution lines and transformers have been upgraded in the area).

I suspect that you will be hard pressed to notice a performance difference with your Wiremold connected to another ring socket via an extension cord of suitable quality as, no doubt, your ring mains that currently feeds your gear is loaded with connections (all of which should be checked for connection integrity as a matter of course).

You may in fact notice a slight improvement if your new connection point proves to be on a cleaner ring or, nearer to the distribution box on the ring in question.

As far as extension cords go I'd recommend a heavy duty/contractor grade 15amp grounded outdoor type, preferably in a 14/3 (14 gauge x 3 conductors) or larger gauge (12/3 or 10/3) configuration. As bonus you could later use the cord inside or out to power tools/gardening equipment. Brands/lines to look out for include Noma's Superflex or Coleman Cable's American Contractor™ and Polar/Solar Plus™ models.

Hope this helps,

Craig