Favourite Symphonist?

Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 21 September 2008

I posted this elsewhere and here is a slightly edited version:

Haydn was "the" master of the symphony for me. I could happily part with Brahms and Beethoven, even Mozart, in their symphonies, so long as I could keep Haydn's!

Of Haydn's, my favourites are something like 103, 99, 93, 88, 82, 87, but this is fairly pointless! I know and love each one from 82 to 104 well enough to give name, number and movement of each! That is a few "toons" to have stored in my heart.

Haydn often is completely light of heart but joyful in an invigourating way. In some works, such as 103 he not just brushes with trgaedy, but gives a sort of optimistic framework which raises the listener immediately, but without a hint of triteness, onto an altogether happier level of emotion. Haydn understood both sadness and joy, and makes it his mission to console as well as raise his listeners to a higher plane. Some of his works manage the very rare trick of actually containing humour to the extent of laugh out loud funny! Now that takes some managing in the sphere of absolute, and abstract instrumental music. The man was a genius who took himself none too seriosly! He wrote works that are perfectly crafted, but all the more humane in intention and effect for often being quite light of heart in thrust. The music is none the less these the work of a genius for being undemanding, in some cases, of the listener's involvement. That comes in time through a deep love of the music, because there is enough intellectual meat to make any amount of acquaintance and study rewarding of itself, if certainly not a pre-requisite.

If there was a ever a description of what is a morallity for music then Haydn makes the blueprint in his music. That is a philosophical point rather than one for useful debate. Compared to most music, Haydn's is a phenomenon that is emotionally generous! Kindly music from a kindly man.


Please add your favoutites Symphonists, and comment on the aspects of the music if this please you ...

ATB from George
Posted on: 04 November 2008 by Manni
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Originally posted by Oldnslow:
Beethoven, with the caveat that if Mozart had lived as long as Beethoven,he would have eclipsed everyone in every kind of composition!!


I agree, but if Schubert had lived as long as Beethoven, he would have created some great symphonies as well.

Best wishes

Manfred
Posted on: 04 November 2008 by Tam
With reference to Schubert, I would say some MORE great symphonies (since he did some great ones in his short life, not least the 'great' c major).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 04 November 2008 by naim_nymph
~<>~ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1991) ~<>~

... he knew how to create and use interesting melodic tunes, create peaceful relaxing symphonies that are able to strive with beautiful dynamics. They often seem to start with a hint of darkness but this is never enough to really frighten the horses.

I liken listening to Mozart's symphonies to going on a 18th century coach ride, sometimes the going is hectic, sometimes smooth, here the weather maybe stormy... but here the weather is nice... but despite a bit of bumping around here and there one always arrives safe and sound, and in very good style, with a sense of having a taste of a very special experience.

He composed his first symphonies when he was a teenager, i find these superb but his later ones are all masterpieces.
I can't help feel people just take this musik so much for granted these days : (
My favourite amongst his symphonies is the one i'm hearing at the time.

For a special treat: Serve with red wine, fresh bread, and vintage cheddar cheese! : )

nymph

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