If you don't understand why some of us love Rugby, this has GOT to be watched!

I`m filling up

Soccer is for girls.

Jono

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Originally posted by Jono 13:
Soccer is for girls.

Jono

At least they don't cry when they put numbers not letters on the back of their shirts.

No but they do start crying if another player gets within a country mile of tackling them, referee the bastards kicked me shins

Football is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans, whereas rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

Jono

As if to prove a point...

Remember you're Gentlemen

But that's not in England, is it?

As a Welshman I like rugby as much as the next person but am I really the only person prepared to stand up and say that was 8 minutes plus of cliche-ridden, stereotypical, pseudo macho BS? I mean, what on earth was that about!

Rugby is no different to any other sport. It has beauty. It has thuggery. It has incompetence and it has cheats. It attracts a disproportionate amount of snobbery and again it's no different there. If you really want to persuade people there is something magical about rugby then you need some footage of Wales and the All Blacks at their best not that self-indulgent, self-congratulating tosh. IMHO of course

Anyone who uses one sport to bash another needs taking to task too. I mean, really, what IS your problem? A sport either engages or stands on it's own or it doesn't. Get over yourselves "chaps"!!!

Mike

I am sorry to have rubbed you up the wrong way, Mike.

But from your own outburst, I must respectfully suggest you've either had a serious sense of humour failure, or got a massive chip on your shoulder, or both.

The fact that you describe yourself as "Welsh exile in English hell" is probably indicative.

Whooop! Whooop! Whooop! Sense of humour failure!! Abandon Forum!! Whooop! Whooop! Whooop!

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Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
As a Welshman I like rugby as much as the next person but am I really the only person prepared to stand up and say that was 8 minutes plus of cliche-ridden, stereotypical, pseudo macho BS? I mean, what on earth was that about!

Rugby is no different to any other sport. It has beauty. It has thuggery. It has incompetence and it has cheats. It attracts a disproportionate amount of snobbery and again it's no different there. If you really want to persuade people there is something magical about rugby then you need some footage of Wales and the All Blacks at their best not that self-indulgent, self-congratulating tosh. IMHO of course

Anyone who uses one sport to bash another needs taking to task too. I mean, really, what IS your problem? A sport either engages or stands on it's own or it doesn't. Get over yourselves "chaps"!!!

Mike

We may not agree on football but I totally agree with your post here about rugby.

Oh dear. The big boys don't like it up 'em do they

Bob, thanks. Duly noted. I suspect we probably agree about lots on football just maybe not City

JWM,

A chip on my shoulder? What, you mean like thise people who have to bash one sport to assert the superiority of their own?

You personally haven't rubbed me up the wrong way at all. The video has though. It's as I described it and nothing else needs to be added.

As far as my signature is concerned I wonder when it will occur to those people who bring it up from time to time that they might just be the ones with the sense of humour bypass and that it might just have been designed to bring out just that fact. Provocative? Sure. That's not illegal. Offensive? Really? Compared to some of the tosh on here. Racist? As was one wondeful suggestion. Words fail!!!

I have to confess I only understood 50% of what he said, but it's like that with all sports, gotta psyche up.

I did think the magenta and grey very butch and go FORD for supporting them.

16 years ago in Santa Barbara UC hosted a huge tourney of rugby. I enjoyed it very much. The one that got me was the game for "mature" players. So much fun, but you could see the pain. One tall blond guy with wrapped knees and I was next to his wife and she said "he just wont give it up" I empathized with her. Painful watching him hobble off the field. I bet he had to get 2 new knees with surgery when that became possible.

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Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
As a Welshman I like rugby as much as the next person but am I really the only person prepared to stand up and say that was 8 minutes plus of cliche-ridden, stereotypical, pseudo macho BS? I mean, what on earth was that about!

Rugby is no different to any other sport. It has beauty. It has thuggery. It has incompetence and it has cheats. It attracts a disproportionate amount of snobbery and again it's no different there. If you really want to persuade people there is something magical about rugby then you need some footage of Wales and the All Blacks at their best not that self-indulgent, self-congratulating tosh. IMHO of course

Anyone who uses one sport to bash another needs taking to task too. I mean, really, what IS your problem? A sport either engages or stands on it's own or it doesn't. Get over yourselves "chaps"!!!

Mike

Apart from the bit about being Welsh and liking rugby, I'm with you 100%.

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Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
A chip on my shoulder? What, you mean like thise people who have to bash one sport to assert the superiority of their own?

Re-watched the video. Not quite sure where your comment comes from. Haven't found ANY evidence of bashing other sports. Where is it?

At the end, yes, with a smile on his face he says 'rugby the greatest* sport in the world', but don't all enthusiastic sports players think - in that same light-hearted way, with a smile - that THEIR sport is the 'greatest* sport in the world'??!

Note: 'greatest' not 'best'. Careful choice of words, I suggest, with a subtle butimportant difference. 'Greatest' expresses how the sport makes him feel, at any active level of the game; not 'best' which would have been the assertion of one over others.

I still say that there is a serious sense of humour failure if one is not able to take a light-hearted video in a light-hearted way.

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Re-watched the video. Not quite sure where your comment comes from. Haven't found ANY evidence of bashing other sports. Where is it?

That may be me

Posted Thu 11 November 2010 16:36
No but they do start crying if another player gets within a country mile of tackling them, referee the bastards kicked me shins

Oh dear

I clearly distinguished two things - comments about the video and comments about those people who use one sport to bash another so, no, you wouldn't spot that reference in the video would you. The big clue was in the use of separate paragraphs for separate points.

As for the idea that there is significance to be read in the difference between "greatest" and "best"!!! Er, it couldn't possibly be that his command of the English language is just average and that when he said "greatest" it meant exactly the same as "best"!!! Talk about talking something of little substance up.

I go back to my original point. I love rugby. No sense of humour failure on my part at all. That was cliched, stereotypical, smug, self-serving advertorial. You couldn't possibly have found a worse advert for a sport.

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I go back to my original point. I love rugby. No sense of humour failure on my part at all. That was cliched, stereotypical, smug, self-serving advertorial. You couldn't possibly have found a worse advert for a sport.

So it was not politically correct then.

It had nothing to do with whether it was politically correct or not. Generally speaking if political correctness means not being sexist, racist, homophobic and generally displaying some awareness of equality issues then I am all for it.

If on the other hand you mean "politically correct" in the "worlds gone mad, imaginary jobs, this is just insane, Whitehall loonies" and, oh yes, middle class men with more money than sense; snobbery about their superior sport and a longing for the good old days when men were men and nothing else mattered then, yeah, ir probably was about political correctness!!!

The cliche and stereotypes in the video - to be specific and serious for a moment - were around it being a tough, competitive sport; a game for a mans man; all about the competing and the sporting bond rather than just the winning; the inportsnce of the ritual before and after the game and so on.

As pathetic and tediously, obviously wrong as the suggestion that football is a working class game or that cricket is a gentle sport that harks back to a more tranquil age rather than being full of cheating twerps who long ago sold their souls and their game for money etc. etc. Pick any sport. It really doesn't matter. People who subscribe to this rubbish unthinkingly all say the same about their own sport and fundamentally they are all wrong.

As I said at the outset, you want to explain the magic of rugby you put on 30 minutes of Wales and the All Blacks from the 60s and 70s and you've got it there.