Drum Solos

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Originally posted by BigH47:
In jazz everybody has a go at a solo in turn, predictable and boring. IMHO.

You're listening to the wrong jazz then. I wasn't sure that these stereotypes would endure on such a music dedicated board as this. Maybe it is all about the 'kit' instead....

Perhaps I should have said "In some forms of Jazz........"
Sheesh you are a piccy lot and no mistake.

quote:

Originally posted by BigH47:
Perhaps I should have said "In some forms of Jazz........"
Sheesh you are a piccy lot and no mistake.

No. I think your initial statement( In jazz everybody has a go at a solo in turn, predictable and boring. IMHO. ) needs revising completely. It is a pretty bold, sweeping one after all.

within stereotypes there often exists a grain of truth... for me, in general, solos have very little to do with music and much to do with indulging the egos of the musicians...

And at the end end of the day all music is self indulgent to a degree. Musicians don't create music for other people they create it for themselves ultimately.

Ryan

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Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
More recently, was lucky enough to see Cream at the RAH on 05/05/05. Ginger baker's drumming was tremendous throughout, and a relatively modest "Toad" (5 or so minutes) brought the house down.

I forgot Ginger from my list - so just click here and here he is live at the 2005 Reunion - wonderful.

[quote]quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:
Perhaps I should have said "In some forms of Jazz........"
Sheesh you are a piccy lot and no mistake.


No. I think your initial statement( In jazz everybody has a go at a solo in turn, predictable and boring. IMHO. ) needs revising completely. It is a pretty bold, sweeping one after all.[/quote

I think you will find that that has revised it and it is not sweeping anymore.

I think one of the most powerful and moving solos I have ever seen was Buddy Rich, ca 1967. Buddy standing in a spotlight with just a snare drum and a few horn players behind him having a go at Ravel's Bolero. Buddy takes flight and the horn players go sit down. Pure passion and fire. I got the DVD of it off a P2P site. Willing to share if so desired! The rest of the performance with his big band is outrageous too!

And on the more lowbrow side, I have always been a big fan of Tommy Aldridge and his crazy drum antics with Black Oak Arkansas. Kind of a cross between bare handed Bonham (genius!!), and country soul man Ron Tutt from Elvis' band.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Pun intended....

Great Jon Hiseman solo on the Reunion Concerts 1994 cd which is playing right now. Track 8. What an inventive guy, hard to believe he only has 2 hands and 2 legs - sounds like he needed to be an octopus!!