Help! Nac A5 plugs does not fit Nait 2
Posted by: JYOW on 23 April 2002
This is confusing.
I just bought a pair of NAC A5 cables with standard Naim plugs, the plugs with 2 little ears in one end and one ear in the other end.
The speaker outs on the Nait 2 are close together and the black ears of the left and right channels runs into each other when I try to fit the plugs into the speaker outs of the Nait2.
I tried reversing the positives abnd negatives so the left channel has the 2 ears side stcking out and the right channel with the 1 ear side. Even that there is no way for them to fit.
Not sure if I described it right. Did anyone have the same problems? How did you fix it, short of cutting the little ears off.
How can Naim make speaker cables that do not fit their own equipment?
Also, how do you fit that stiff cable without the danger of it damaging the speaker out of the Nait 2? It seems quite a sharp corner for that stiff cable to bend coming out of the Nait speaker outs.
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by David Dever
Cut off the ears--they're a later development, and have no effect on sound quality.
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by Frank Abela
the side with one lug is the positive end. The side with two lugs is the negative end. Ensure that the positive ends are on the outside with the negatives near each other when you manage to get them in place (so, reading left to right you should have Left Pos, Left Neg, Right Neg, Right Pos). This should translate (if wired up correctly) such that the NACA5 side with the lip on it is also on the outsides.
Old plugs had just the one lug if memory serves, with the other side having no lugs whatsoever.
Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by JYOW
>the side with one lug is the positive end. The side with two lugs is the negative end. Ensure that the positive ends are on the outside with the negatives near each other when you manage to get them in place (so, reading left to right you should have Left Pos, Left Neg, Right Neg, Right Pos). This should translate (if wired up correctly) such that the NACA5 side with the lip on it is also on the outsides.
I cannot fit the two negatives next to each other since they are both 2 lugs and they run into each other.
I then tried the two lugs and the one lug side by side but they do not fit either.
I think the best way is to cut the ears. As someone suggested. Hope it is safe.
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by garyi
Won't do no harm except to yourself if you arn't careful thats tough plastic.
You might be better with a junior hacksaw as apposed to say a knife
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by J.N.
Let us know if you start painting in vibrant colours!
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by Rico
quote:
Let us know if you start painting in vibrant colours!
ROFL.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 23 April 2002 by Craig B
It is only necessary to cut the dual lugs off of the negative side of each of the plastic plug housings as the positive side single lugs face outward on the Nait and therefore do not foul anything.
I would disassemble the plug housings using a Pozidrive or Philips screwdriver and, as suggested above, use a hacksaw blade to cut the dual lugs off flush with the plate. The plastic used is quite tough and a knife just won't do.
IMO, the strain relief that is provided by properly seated Naim plugs is particularly important with the Naits as the loudspeaker output sockets are supported via soldered connections to the circuit board rather than by being fitted to the back panel. They are quite durable, however I have seen a number of Naits that have had one or more of their sockets rearward anchors broken free of the main board (most likely due to manhandling of the A5 while it is plugged into the amp). This is easily repaired, however it necessitates removal of the main board from the chassis to gain access to the boards underside for re-soldering.
Regarding the routing of the A5, there are two main options; 1) place a 90 degree bend in the cable within an inch or so of the plug such that the connectors are pointing straight in line with the cable (heating it with a hair dryer makes the job very easy - don't worry it won't break) and then bend it downward over the back edge of the shelf that the amp sits upon or, 2) swap the cables left for right (at both ends) and plug in upside down such that the cables extend upwards and then loop down to the floor (my preferred method although a bit more unsightly if your amp is on a top shelf).
Hope this helps,
Craig
Posted on: 24 April 2002 by JYOW
Thanks for all the great tips.
Just curious, does everyone goes thru hoops like these just for a pair of lousy speaker cables?
More curiously, if these cables are specifically designed by Naim for Naim Amps which Naim insists that we use them, then why don't they fit in a Naim Amp? Haven't these gurus in Naim thought of trying it on their own machines?
Most curiously, why does it have to be difficult? Those plastic ears seems quite uneccessary. Or do Naim owners just enjoy the MacGyver tricks?
I think in this case Naim redefined the term over-engineering.
Posted on: 24 April 2002 by skraft
I did the upside down, right side up approach. Worked just fine. Apparently the ears were brought into being after the Nait 2 had ceased being. The design works on all later equipment. Everything on the Nait 2 is squeezed.