150 v 140
Posted by: Sproggle on 09 June 2002
In the past year many have expressed an opinion on which of the two amps is better but nobody, as far as I can see, has actually described a direct comparison. Anyone care to?
[I'm asking out of idle curiosity, since I need to upgrade several other components before my 90].
--Sproggle
[I'm asking out of idle curiosity, since I need to upgrade several other components before my 90].
--Sproggle
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by Steve Toy
I have done an A/B comparison.
The 140 is much better. Despite being slightly "les powerful" in terms of wattage, it kicks harder than a 150 and is generally more musical.
The 150 woud just be a side step from a 90, imho.
Regards,
Steve.
The proof of the pudding...
The 140 is much better. Despite being slightly "les powerful" in terms of wattage, it kicks harder than a 150 and is generally more musical.
The 150 woud just be a side step from a 90, imho.
Regards,
Steve.
The proof of the pudding...
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Sproggle
Thanks Steve. I'm surprised that no 150 fans have leapt to its defence.
--Sproggle
--Sproggle
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Steve Toy
quote:
Thanks Steve. I'm surprised that no 150 fans have leapt to its defence
The 150 doesn't have any fans, you have to go to 135s for those.
Regards,
Steve.
The proof of the pudding...
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Andrew L. Weekes
As a very happy 150 user, I'll leap to it's defence.
I haven't compared 140 / 150, and I seem to remember that Naim themselves implied the 140 was the better option, but I can assure you it is a significant move forward from a NAP90 or a NAP110, not a sideways step as stated above.
The primary difference between the older style amps and newer is the sense of ease and refinement the 150 has. It made a massive difference to the control of my Kans, but has a beguiling quality that is less 'in your face' than the hard line the older amps can portray (the 'this is what I do really well - like it or lump it' approach).
The 150 and all the 5 series kit has all the Naim attributes in spades, but also a sense of refinement that doesn't draw attention to it's shortfalls. I could use my 112, for example with most sources, but less than an LP12 into my Nait 1 could be painful.
I know exactly which system is the best and most musical though, and happily use my 112 / 150 every single day of the week, with few thoughts as to it's limitations.
There - does that redress the balance a bit
A.
I haven't compared 140 / 150, and I seem to remember that Naim themselves implied the 140 was the better option, but I can assure you it is a significant move forward from a NAP90 or a NAP110, not a sideways step as stated above.
The primary difference between the older style amps and newer is the sense of ease and refinement the 150 has. It made a massive difference to the control of my Kans, but has a beguiling quality that is less 'in your face' than the hard line the older amps can portray (the 'this is what I do really well - like it or lump it' approach).
The 150 and all the 5 series kit has all the Naim attributes in spades, but also a sense of refinement that doesn't draw attention to it's shortfalls. I could use my 112, for example with most sources, but less than an LP12 into my Nait 1 could be painful.
I know exactly which system is the best and most musical though, and happily use my 112 / 150 every single day of the week, with few thoughts as to it's limitations.
There - does that redress the balance a bit
A.
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by MrI
I have to echo Andrew's comments. I replaced a CDX/72/hi/160 with cd5/112/flat2/150 and simply enjoy the music every day, every time. No going back for me. There is a certain ease about the presentation, without losing an iota of detail or Naim qualities of pacing. There were days and music types that made my former system unlistenable. As a package, the 5 series has aspects of nuance and subtlety that I had only heard previously at the 82 level. They never cease to make music.
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by bec143
I have been comparing my cd5/flatcap/92/Hicap/90.3 with a 112/150. No PS on the 112 cause it's too hard to do the A/B thing. Thus far the two setups are quite different, and it really matters what we listen to!
The series 5 amps really show their ease and presence with classical, and older jazz-just much more there all around. however, this comes at the expense of some grunt on rock, where it is sometimes a bit shy . The series 3 has always been without any imaging on orchestral and chamber music. It rocks better, and the sound is much more out in front , with the series 5 much more laid back.
Not sure yet if it's worth the extra expense. but overall I have no question the 5 series is better and more versatile
BEC
From Seattle, Washington
The series 5 amps really show their ease and presence with classical, and older jazz-just much more there all around. however, this comes at the expense of some grunt on rock, where it is sometimes a bit shy . The series 3 has always been without any imaging on orchestral and chamber music. It rocks better, and the sound is much more out in front , with the series 5 much more laid back.
Not sure yet if it's worth the extra expense. but overall I have no question the 5 series is better and more versatile
BEC
From Seattle, Washington
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Steve B
The 112/150 doesn't quite 'Kick Ass' like the 3 series but it does make music just as well if not better.
I will max out the front ends before considering upgrading the amp. (Except maybe a Flatcap).
Steve B
Max out? Kick Ass? - I've been lurking here too long.
I will max out the front ends before considering upgrading the amp. (Except maybe a Flatcap).
Steve B
Max out? Kick Ass? - I've been lurking here too long.
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by Markus
If the above comparison is even close, I think you're hearing the hicap. The power supply IS the preamp. Sort of...
Markus
Markus
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by bec143
I have the Hicap on the CD5 so both setups use it. The 92 has a flatcap, whereas the 112 i sbeingpowered by the 150
Bruce
From Seattle, Washington
Bruce
From Seattle, Washington