Pysch/Prog/Folk Thread for Anybody Interested

Posted by: Guido Fawkes on 06 August 2006

JWM - asked if I'd considered a compendium of Prog rock. Well I'm probably not up to the task and as I'll probably drift in to Pysch and Folk and Euro and Space Rock without even noticing, I've titled the thread accordingly. So I'm afraid it's a case of Irk The Purists and lets give it a go. See also the Prog thread.

So where do we start - lets go back to 1926. Janáček’s Sinfonietta was written in the spring of 1926. And yes you know it - it was borrowed by ELP on their first album and called Knife Edge and it was also used to introduce the 60s classic court room drama - Crown Court. So if you haven't got this in your collection then you should have and if you are one of those who posts that he (or she) doesn't like classical music then give it a try.

Of course, when we arrive in the 1960s things start to happen. Perhaps most significant are these albums



Shirley Collins - should be Dame Shirley as she has done more for English music than anybody - Shirley Collins is without doubt one of England's greatest cultural treasures - Billy Bragg

Folk Roots, New Roots - Shirley Collins and Davey Graham: it is simple really: collect some of the best songs from our heritage and bring together a superb singer and a very good guitarist. You have a masterpiece.



1. Nottamun Town
2. Proud Maisrie
3. The Cherry Tree Carol
4. Blue Monk
5. Hares On The Mountain
6. Reynardine
7. Pretty Saro
8. Rif Mountain
9. Jane, Jane
10. Love Is Pleasin'
11. Boll Weevil, Holler
12. Hori Horo
13. Bad Girl
14. Lord Greggory
15. Grooveyard
16. Dearest Dear

Growing up listening in a house where jazz, Perry Como, Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley dominated, Folk Roots, New Roots was a breath of fresh air - it made me want to listen to music. I've been an addict ever since.

Of course, we have got to mention the Beatles and the Kinks - it is easy: simply buy all their albums: there are no duff ones. But that is obvious and I think my compendium should focus on the less obvious

So lets kick of with the Incredible String Band - it was they that influenced the Beatles. The two albums that you simply must listen to are



The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion contains alternating Heron and Williamson songs. Every track is sensational and it combines eastern and western music in a unique way.

"Chinese White" (Mike Heron) – 3:40
"No Sleep Blues" (Robin Williamson) – 3:53
"Painting Box" (Heron) – 4:04
"The Mad Hatter's Song" (Williamson) – 5:40
"Little Cloud" (Heron) – 4:05
"The Eyes of Fate" (Williamson) – 4:02
"Blues for the Muse" (Williamson) – 2:49
"The Hedgehog's Song" (Heron) – 3:30
"First Girl I Loved" (Williamson) – 4:55
"You Know What You Could Be" (Heron) – 2:46
"My Name Is Death" (Williamson) – 2:46
"Gently Tender" (Heron) – 4:49
"Way Back in the 1960s" (Williamson) – 3:11



I'm tempted to say The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter is more of the same and in many ways it is, but it contains an epic song: 'A Very Cellular Song' which drifts from one musical style to another and yet maintains its coherence.

"Koeeaddi There" (Robin Williamson) - 4:49
"The Minotaur's Song" (Williamson) - 3:22
"Witches Hat" (Williamson) - 2:33
"A Very Cellular Song" (Mike Heron) - 13:09
"Mercy I Cry City" (Heron) - 2:46
"Waltz of the New Moon" (Williamson) - 5:10
"The Water Song" (Williamson) - 2:50
"Three Is a Green Crown" (Williamson) - 7:46
"Swift as the Wind" (Heron) - 4:53
"Nightfall" (Williamson) - 2:33

So these are my first two recommendations for anybody vaguely interested. I don't think these albums would have surfaced had it not been for Shirley Collins and I doubt if we would have had Sgt Pepper had it not been for the Beatles love of ISB (though it was the ISB's first album from '66 that John Lennon and Paul McCartney both acknowledged).
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes


Spirit were a great group, I'd thoroughly recommend Spirit, Family That Plays Together and Clear Spirit, but avove all, I'd recommend this masterpiece from 1970 Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus

It has 12 tracks each representing a dream and the guy must have had great dreams - Jay Ferguson and Randy California are at their brilliant best.

Side 1

Prelude - Nothin' to Hide
Nature's Way
Animal Zoo
Love Has Found a Way
Why Can't I Be Free
Mr. Skin

Side 2

Space Child
When I Touch You
Street Worm
Life Has Just Begun
Morning Will Come
Soldier

Jay Ferguson: vocals and keyboards
Randy California: guitar and vocals
Mark Andes: bass and vocals
John Locke: keyboards
Ed Cassidy: drums
David Blumberg: horn arrangements

Possibly the best west coast album in my collection - although there are other contenders like Forever Changes and Green River, of course - but Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus is an imense record that brings together the best of rock, pop, folk, blues and classical with jazz backgrounds. Spirit forgot about what category they were supposed to be in and just wrote whatever songs they felt like and played them really well - production qualities are of the highest order. The CD version has four bonus tracks - two mono versions of tracks already on the main album and the 1970 single Red Light Roll On/Rougher Road, which wasn't good enough to feature among the original 12 dreams though it's OK.

After Spirit Jay Ferguson and Mark Andes form Jo Jo Gunne and realised a couple of fine albums: the first self-titled one and Bite Down Hard, but neither reached the heights of Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus.

I am not overly familiar with Randy California's subsequent work. However, it was very sad that Randy died in January of 1997, when he was gripped by an undertow when swimming near Hawaiia to save his 12 year-old son from drowning.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
BTW if you want my pick of the West Coat albums then, in no particular order:

Absolutely Free - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
After Bathing At Baxters - Jefferson Airplane
Anthem of the Sun - Grateful Dead
At Your Birthday Party - Steppenwolf
Bayou Country - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Burnt Weeny Sandwich - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Cheap Thrills - Big Brother and the Holding Company
Clear - Spirit
Cosmo's Factory - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Crown of Creation - Jefferson Airplane
Doors - The Doors
Electric Music For The Mind And Body - Country Joe and the Fish
Family That Plays Together - Spirit
Forever Changes - Love
Freak Out - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Grateful Dead - Grateful Dead
Green River - Creedence Clearwater Revival
I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixing-To-Die - Country Joe and the Fish
Jo Jo Gunne - Jo Jo Gunne
Incense and Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
LA Woman - The Doors
Pendulum - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Spirit - Spirit
Steppenwolf - Steppenwolf
Steppenwolf The Second - Steppenwolf
Surrealistic Pillow - Jefferson Airplane
Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus - Spirit
Uncle Meat - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Weasels Ripped My Flesh - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
We're Only In It For The Money - Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Willy and the Poor Boys - Creedence Clearwater Revival

I don't think Janis Joplin was from California, but if she counts as west coast then her entire output is good with Perl being my favourite album.

Any of the above albums are more than worth a spin - the most consistent group were Creedence Clearwater Revival, but avoid Mardi Gras by them like the plague, it is rubbish apart from two John Fogerty gems Someday Never Comes and Sweet Hitch-Hiker.

Anybody like to add to my list or point out the ones I forgot.

BTW - I don't rate Happy Trails by QMS.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
I forgot the Captain -- anybody like to recommend albums by the great Don Van Vliet

Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Malky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ROTF:
I forgot the Captain -- anybody like to recommend albums by the great Don Van Vliet
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Well, Trout Mask Replica of course. DON'T give up, it reveals its charms most parsimoniously. Your in safe hands with Strictly Personal, Safe As Milk, Mirror Man and Lick My Decals Off Baby (hard to find). Thing's get a bit patchy after this. Don't touch Bluejeans and Moonbeams or Clear Spot. Spotlight Kid and Shiny Beast are good mid-period Captain whilst Ice Cream For Crow is a very good sign off.

Of your list of Classic West coast I'd add (off the top of my head) Live Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service's eponymous debut, Happy Trails and Shady Grove. Love's 1st and Four Sail. The Byrds Younger Than Yesterday, Fifth Dimension, Notorious Byrd Brothers, Sweetheart Of The Rodeo and The Byrds. David Crosby's If Only I Could Remember My Name. Tim Buckley's Happy Sad, Lorca, Starsailor and Blue Afternoon. (Does Taj Mahal's debut count as West Coast?)
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Andy Devon
ROTF

That's a pretty good start for West Coast music although I haven't heard a number of the Creedence Clearwater Revival albums.

I also agree with Malky ref Byrds and Tim Buckley - I'm between the two of you about QMS - I love the first album but the other two disappoint me. Captain Beefheart recommendations are about right too!

One other that I've always rated is The United States of America's one and only album with its blend of electronic music and the West Coast sound. Takes me back to your comments ROTF, about Art and Spooky Tooth. I agree completely with your analysis. I too have owned Ceremony since buying it on release. I tried so hard to like it but the electronics just get in the way. Not so, with USofA.

Another band I have only recently listened to was actually from Chicago but is totally in the West Coast Pyschedelia mould - HP Lovecraft. I'm listening to the excellent compilation album 'Dreams in the Witch House' right now and I think it's definitely worth a listen.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Malky
A band that always passed me by has been Moby Grape. Look great on paper but just never really grabbed me. Likewise that huge cult, Skip Spence's Oar. I had it once but got shot of it. I really wanted to like it but couldn't see what all the fuss was about.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by AndyFelin
quote:
Originally posted by Malky:

Well, Trout Mask Replica of course. DON'T give up, it reveals its charms most parsimoniously. Your in safe hands with Strictly Personal, Safe As Milk, Mirror Man and Lick My Decals Off Baby (hard to find). Thing's get a bit patchy after this. Don't touch Bluejeans and Moonbeams or Clear Spot. Spotlight Kid and Shiny Beast are good mid-period Captain whilst Ice Cream For Crow is a very good sign off.



As a long-term Capt.B fan (yes, I bought Safe as Milk in '67)I disagree with your rec of Trout Mask Replica - not a good place to start for people who aren't familiar with his music IMO. Best to start with your other recs then work back to it if you like what you hear. I also rate Clear Spot very highly.

Interesting comments on The Pretty Things as I saw these live quite a few times and they were, without fail, dismal. I never could bring myself to buy any of their records.

Andy
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by AndyFelin:
Interesting comments on The Pretty Things as I saw these live quite a few times and they were, without fail, dismal. I never could bring myself to buy any of their records.

Andy


I've never seen them live - I'm only familiar with the records. Did you see them during the SF Sorrow period?

There are a few bands I've seen live who I thought left a lot to be desired (Curved Air come to mind), but sound great on elpee, perhaps Phil May and the crew were such a band.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by AndyFelin
quote:
Originally posted by ROTF:

I've never seen them live - I'm only familiar with the records. Did you see them during the SF Sorrow period?

There are a few bands I've seen live who I thought left a lot to be desired (Curved Air come to mind), but sound great on elpee, perhaps Phil May and the crew were such a band.


I must have done I suppose, sorry but it shows the impression they left on me.

One band you mention who were great live is the original Soft Machine. I saw them at my local college in early '67 and they were brilliant. Robert Wyatt upset the caretaker because he nailed his drums to the stage floor. We all pissed ourselves. This was at a time when most bands were just doing blues covers (as The pretty Things did for much of their career) so a band coming out and doing something totally different went down a storm. They also had a great light show.

Andy

ps. You are quite right about live and recorded work. Two separate things entirely.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Malky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AndyFelin:
As a long-term Capt.B fan (yes, I bought Safe as Milk in '67)I disagree with your rec of Trout Mask Replica - not a good place to start for people who aren't familiar with his music IMO. Best to start with your other recs then work back to it if you like what you hear.
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Fair enough, but I wasn't (and wouldn't) recommend Trout Mask Replica for beginners. It takes a lot of work but (and I'm sure you found this) one day it just clicks. What was before just honks and grunts, becomes a work of great beauty.
The Dust Blows Forwards would, I believe, serve as a good intro to the wonderful world of Beefheart.
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
So what's the best band from Detroit?

Well - for me there is only one answer - the greatest music ever to come out of the Motor City came from the one and only Alice Cooper Group.

It is not fashionable and, of course, I was supposed to say MC5 - but I bought Love It To Death when I was at school and drove my friends mad with it.



Pretties For You (1969 on Frabk Zappa's Straight Records though FZ did not help very much
Titanic Overture
10 Minutes Before the Worm
Sing Low, Sweet Cheerio
Today Mueller
Living
Fields Of Regret
No Longer Umpire
Levity Ball (Live At the Cheetah)
B. B. On Mars
Reflected
Apple Bush
Earwigs To Eternity
Changing Arranging

Why was Levity Ball (Live At the Cheetah) put on this album when the studio version released only as a single was a 1,000 times better. This is a pychedelic Alice Cooper Group and it is an excellent debut album.



Easy Action (1970)
Mr. & Misdemeanor
Shoe Salesman
Still No Air
Below Your Means
Return of the Spiders
Laughing At Me
Refrigerator Heaven
Beautiful Flyaway
Lay Down and Die, Goodbye

Another great pychedelic Alice Cooper Group

and then ....



Love It To Death (1971)
Caught In A Dream
I'm Eighteen
Long Way To Go
Black JuJu
Is It My Body
Hallowed Be My Name
Second Coming
Ballad Of Dwight Fry
Sun Arise

Love It To Death is a fantastic album, every track is great even the rendition of Rolf Harris's Sun Arise. The first three tracks are as good an opening as any rock album ever had. Caught In a Dream was the first Alice Cooper Group record that I ever heard and just couldn't stop singing it. Those lyrics

Well I'm runnin through the world with a gun in my back
tryin' to catch a ride in a Cadillac
Thought that I was livin', but you can't really tell
been tryin' to get away from that success smell

I need a houseboat and I need a plane
I need a butler and a trip to Spain
I need everything the world owes me
I tell that to myself and I agree
I'm caught in a dream So What!


Then you follow this with Eighteen - a song about being eighteen when you don't know what you want to do, but you do know that whatever you're doing now isn't it.

Then one of the great rock songs We've Still Got A Long Way To Go

The drums and build up of Black Juju - the centre piece of the album with its hypnotic charm. Then three more pretty solid tracks before we go in to the album's masterpiece Ballad Of Dwight Fry. The title is a salute to actor Dwight Frye, who played maniacal characters in many early Universal horror films including Renfield in the original Dracula. Vincent (Alice) dropped the "E" from the name as a way to avoid a lawsuit. Vincent sings "I wanna get out of here" which portrayed the plight of the asylum-committed Renfield (Frye) in Dracula. Frye was also in the original "Frankenstein" as the doctor's demented assistant, and was a gravedigger in "Bride of Frankenstein" and a reporter in "The Invisible Man." He died of a heart attack while riding a bus with his family when he was in his 40s. The song is superb - if you've never heard it then you're missing out.

Of course Killer and Billion Dollar Babies were further great albums for the Alice Cooper Group. Not so keen on Schools Out - although I like the single.

When Vincent broke with the group and changed his name to Alice Cooper, he released a wonderful solo effort called Welcome To My Nightmare



This contains some great songs like the title track, Only Women Bleed and the curious Cold Ethyl. The rest of album is fairly haunting too.

As Alice Cooper, Vincent went on to make some more great tracks, but I don't think he has produced any further great albums - and certainly nothing as good as Love It To Death, but then few groups have.

Rotf
Posted on: 19 August 2006 by Malky
Just been listening to some Jefferson Airplane offshoot 'Hot Tuna'. Man, that Kaukonen lad could spank a plank.
Posted on: 19 August 2006 by MichaelC
quote:
Originally posted by ROTF:
Thanks, Micheal C, for the pointer to Kromlek and your comments.


Pleasure.

There are so many bands performers out there - did you ever come across Twelth Night (mid eighties outfit)?

One to try and track down is Tubilah Dog and their self titled album. Some of the very best music I have ever listened to.
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Scott in DC
ROTF wrote about Alice Cooper's early albums, Pretties for You and Easy Action. These are actually good albums that got overlooked when AC became popular. Also Alice Cooper (the man and the group) for some reason didn't continue to play these songs at concerts after they became a big name group. I'm not sure why because these albums are nothing to be ashamed of.

I have these records myself and they are worth seeking out if you are an AC fan.

Scott
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by munch:
Has todd rundgrens UTOPIA had a mention? regards munch


hi munch

I know virtually nothing about Todd Rungrens or his music - would you like tow rite something about him and give some recommendations.

Rotf
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelC:
quote:
Originally posted by ROTF:
Thanks, Micheal C, for the pointer to Kromlek and your comments.


Pleasure.

There are so many bands performers out there - did you ever come across Twelth Night (mid eighties outfit)?

One to try and track down is Tubilah Dog and their self titled album. Some of the very best music I have ever listened to.


MichealC

No I'm not familiar with 12th Night, but I'll try to get here Tubilah Dog if I can.

Rotf
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by Scott in DC:
ROTF wrote about Alice Cooper's early albums, Pretties for You and Easy Action. These are actually good albums that got overlooked when AC became popular. Also Alice Cooper (the man and the group) for some reason didn't continue to play these songs at concerts after they became a big name group. I'm not sure why because these albums are nothing to be ashamed of.

I have these records myself and they are worth seeking out if you are an AC fan.

Scott


Scott

AC did sort of re-record Reflected as Elected and the theme from Refrigerator Heaven did sort of spawn Cold Ethyl, but I agree AC has nothing to be ashamed of in his early releases. Even some of his even earlier work like Nobody Loves Me would still stand up.

My understanding was that Frank Zappa who was credited with the production did almost nothing to help the Alice Cooper Group other than give them studio time. So these albums are quite remarkable considering their lack of experience in the studio.

Rotf
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
Ian Mathews Macdonald was om Fairport Conventions first two two albums and so he had a great start. He also made two superb solo album as Ian Mathews as he didn't want to be confused with Ian Macdonald of King Crimson. The two great Ian Mathews albums were If You Saw Thro' My Eyes (January 1971) and Tigers Will Survive (November 1971). Of course, before that he had a hit with Joni Mitchell's Woodstock as the leader of Mathews Southern Comfort.

But his greatest work was with Plainsong, with Dave Richards, Andy Roberts, and Bob Ronga. Andy and Bod were on Tigers Will Survive and the rather disaapointing Journeys From Gospel Oak with Ian. However there was nothing disappointing about the first Plainsong album: In Search of Amelia Earhart. Made in 1972, Ian still claims it wasn't a concept album, it just had some songs about Amelia Earhart on the record.



In Search of Amelia Earhart is not an Ian Mathews solo album, it is an album by a group and all the players contribute.

1. For the Second Time (Matthews)
2. Yo Yo Man (Cooper, Cunha)
3. Louise (Siebel)
4. Call the Tune (Matthews)
5. Diesel on My Tail (Fagan)
6. Amelia Earhart's Last Flight (McEnery)
7. I'll Fly Away (Brumley)
8. True Story of Amelia Earhart (Matthews)
9. Even the Guiding Light (Matthews)
10. Side Roads (Matthews)
11. Raider (Henske, Yester)

It is a folk music with a country and blues tinge and an English accent and it works surprisingly well. The album came with reporter Charles Goerner's notes on the disappearance of Amelia Earhart and her navigator, Frederick Noonan, The album is full of great songs and the performances are excellent throughout. This album is well worth hearing if you get the chance.

Rotf
Posted on: 20 August 2006 by Malky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by munch:
todd rundgrins utopia/healing/a wizard,a true star /hermit of mink hollow /todd /utopia another live
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Something/ Anything ????
Posted on: 21 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
It's the end of soul, soul is dead, bury it in the hole, it's the end of soul - well I'm not in total agreement, but those were the sentiments of German band, Embryo, on their excellent debut album Opal - not to be confused with the Syd Barrett elpee of the same name.



Ironically Opal has some jazz and soul undertones, but is essentially a progressive blues album - with a bit of the avante garde. It is Gong like in places. This is the only Embryo record I'm familiar with, but I should like to hear more.

Christian Burchard - Drums
John Kelly - Guitar, Vocals
Edgar Hoffman - Sax, Electric Violin
Ralph Fischer - Bass
Bettsy Alleh - Vocals
Roberto Detree - Motocelle
Holger Trulsch - Bongo

Staying with German bands, my next choice is hard work unless you have a German friend who can translate (or of course you are lucky enough to speak German). The reason is that Floh De Cologne use German texts and knowing the meaning of these texts helps. I wish there were English translations on the sleeves for linguistically challenged people like me.

Nonetheless. I recommend Fließbandbabys Beat-Show without reservation.



Floh De Cologne were as outrageous as they were innovative. They began in 1966 as a student cabaret band. Floh De Cologne surprised, puzzled and broke convention. I have never seen their elaborate stage show, but the socio-political albums and musical innovation make you think of German Mothers of Invention. However there was no Frank Zappa figure, Floh de Cologne were a creative unit with all members contributing.

Whilst I think the aforementioned Fließbandbabys Beat-Show is their best, I also think Geyer Symphonie is quite stunning.



Which brings me to my third German band choice - Wallenstein. The album I own and recommend is called Cosmic Century

1. The Symphonic Rock Orchestra - Rory Blanchford (9:25)
2. Grand Piano (2:11)
3. Silver arms (9:40)
4. The marvellous child (6:10)
5. Song of wire (7:46)
6. The Cosmic Couriers meet South Philly Willy (7:24)

Bill Barone - electric guitar
Jürgen Dollase - piano, mellotron, vibes and vocals
Joachim Reiser - violin
Dieter Meier - bass
Harald Großkopf - drums

I guess Space Rock is one loose description, but it is more Camel than Amon Dull II. It is a very good album.

I'd also like to mention some other German bands I know and enjoy:


  • Anyone's Daughter - Piktors Verwandlungen 1981
  • Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel 1971
  • Birth Control - Operation 1971
  • Can - Monster Movie 1969
  • Cosmic Jokers - Cosmic Jokers 1974
  • Faust - Faust 1971 and just about anything else by them
  • Grobschnitt - Grobschnitt 1972
  • Guru Guru - Kanguru 1972
  • Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk 1 & 2 (1971/2) and Ralf unt Florian 1973
  • Klaus Schulze - Blackdance 1974
  • Neu! - Neu! and Neu2
  • Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation 1970 and Alpha Centauri 1971


and lots more albums by those groups.

And if you want some nicely progressive German music then please try Eloy



Three concept albums to annoy those who think this type of music should have had the fate that Embryo suggested for soul, but if you like Pink Floyd then you may well enjoy these.


  • Power and the Passion 1976
  • Dawn 1977
  • Ocean 1978


Eloy were

Frank Bornemann (Lead Vocals, All Electric, Acoustic, and Effect Guitars)
Klaus-Peter Matziol (Vocals, Thunderbird and Fender Fretless Bass Guitars)
Detlev Schmidtchen (Hammond Organ, Mini-Moog and ARP Synthesizers, Mellotron, RMI Keyboard Computer, Xylophone, Angelic Voices)
Jürgen Rosenthal (Sonor Genuine Rosewood Drums, Paiste Cymbals, Timbales, Roto-Toms, Temple Blocks, Kettle-Drums, Tubular Bells, Morse Key, Voice, Triangles, Paper and Flute)

It's great IMO.

Rotf
Posted on: 21 August 2006 by sjust
ROTF, what a post !

Brings me back to my teenage days when I went and saw

Emybryo (Charlie Mariano played with them, expecially on their Indienreise trip)
Guru Guru (Manni Neumaier - their charismatic drummer plays in Frankfurt, next weekend)
Birth Control
Klaus Schulze
Alexis Korner (was he German, at all ?)
Nektar
Eloy
Udo Lindenberg
Atlantis (Inga Runpf is still alive, I believe)
Nina Hagen and Spliff (later)

and all those other nameless German Krautrock bands that (thankfully) didn't leave traces in history...

cheers
Stefan
Posted on: 21 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
Stefan

Thanks for the kind words - I've always found that there is something magical about that era in German rock music.

BTW Alexis Korner had an Austrian father and a Greek mother, but held a British passport - but whatever he was and wherever he came from, he made some great records and helped out a lot of young musicians.

I think music has great universal appeal, which is why it is so important IMO.

I do have records by Udo Lindenberg, Atlantis and Nina Hagen and enjoy these very much too. I don't have anything by Nektar, something I must put right one day.

Best regards, Rotf
Posted on: 22 August 2006 by urs
Bands I like very much are
Colosseum
Tempest
Juicy Lucy
Tudor Lodge
Clark Hutchinson
Dr Strangely Strange
Gracious
East of Eden
Quatermass
Renaissance
and and and

urs
Posted on: 22 August 2006 by Guido Fawkes
Dr. Strangely Strange were Ireland's answer to the Incredible String Band, who were from Scotland.



I always found them strangely strange, but oddly normal.
Posted on: 23 August 2006 by steveb
ROTF
You must put right neglect of Nektar-live they were superb with a brilliant lightshow. Saw them this year minus lightshow-musically great -loud and heavy-but did miss the lights-difficult to suggest albums but i like Tab in the Ocean, Sounds Like This and Remember The Future. There is also a recently released live DVD "Pure"from a 2005 show with full light show.
Have a look at their website:-
http://www.nektar.us/nn/home/home_new.asp
Agree about Eloy, The Ocean Pt 2, The Answer is a fave.
Also note you are also a fan of Faust- another of my faves. There is a book on them due to be published in September covering The Wumme Years:-Faust: Stretch out Time 1970-75 by Andy Wilson-I think he administers their website-further info at:-
http://www.faust-pages.com/

Steve