Floor spikes on Sound Oganisation rack

Posted by: Boz on 25 February 2002

Should I let the floor spikes on my rack and floorstanding speakers actually go into my pine floorboards or should I keep them on top of some 1 pence pieces.

Which will give me the best sound ? confused

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by Chris L
I'd try both, and also you could try putting cross head screws into the floorboards to putting the rack on those.

Try all for a few days, or a week each, and decide which you like best.

I found it depends on the equipment, floor, room, personal taste, and so on. I usually prefer the spikes on (not in!) the floor, but a couple places I've lived, I've gone with the cross head screw approach.

Hove fun,

Chris L

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by Martin Payne
Pretty much agree with Chris.

I have never found coins under spikes to be a benefit. The one application where I did like this (coins above upward-pointing spikes) the problem turned out to be the spikes digging upwards into the wood. This was resolved by filling the wood which had been dug out by the spikes, so that a minimal contact was maintained.

Spikes should rest down onto the floor, but not pierce into it.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by kan man
Chris makes a good point when he says try for a few days/weeks and it's worth reinforcing this.

If you move a stand (any imho) it will sound worse and will take days to sound at it's best again. It takes a long time to do a sensible comparism and I don't think everyone is fully aware of this. Hence there is a great deal more dissent/discussion/unpleasantness about stands than simple personal preferences would suggest.

My experience with SO stands is that they work best lowered onto floorboards and alowed to settle naturally (i.e don't force themm in). They don't work as well for me on x head screws and this is especially noticable with an LP12 rather than electronics. I'm not keen on pennies anywhere other than my piggy bank either.

Regards
Steve

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by Willy
quote:
Originally posted by kan man:

They don't work as well for me on x head screws and this is especially noticable with an LP12 rather than electronics. I'm not keen on pennies anywhere other than my piggy bank either.

Regards
Steve



Had an SO table for my LP12. Tried all three options, bare, coins and eventually settled on screws as being best. On coins was the worst. This is where the logic of a "reclaimed" Oregon pine floor comes in. Since it's already full of the original nail holes the Mrs can't complain about a few more!


Willy.

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by kan man
Hi Willy

I doubt we will get a consensus on coins either, there are probably loads of people out there that find they do work for them. There are far too many variables at play. I did find that on screws you get to the finished performance quicker, probably because the spikes don't exactly settle that much! I do use screws under my Kans though.

Regards
Steve

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by J.N.
You should get rid of the Sound Org rack.

I became very dissatisfied with the sound of my system when it was on Sound Org racks.

In desperation; I put all the kit on the carpeted floor and connected it up.

It was better. I have witnesses.

Anything made of wood, sounds better.

That 'ferrous-effect' is BAD, BAD, BAD!

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by Boz
never really thought of this, reason I bought it was it won What Hi-Fi ? "Best Rack for the money" a couple of years ago.
Certainly seems substantial and well built with glass shelves and isolating rubber cushions but I don't really know what else is out there, does it really make that much of a difference ??

Set up is CDX/92/Hi/90.3/Royd Abbots but will be upgrading pre and power amp shortly to 102 or 82

Naim Frame is out of the question so what else is there for £300 or so really I have no idea about racks !!

Posted on: 25 February 2002 by Martin Payne
Boz,

sorry, have to agree with J.N. & disagree violently with WHF.

Try to get a demo of Isoblue racks. Should be an excellent upgrade & (almost) in your price range.

Also these are wondefully modular, add another component, buy one more level.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 26 February 2002 by Boz
Isoblue racks, what are they made of ??

The concensus seems to be go down the "wood" route and avoid anything ferrous

Do you know which dealerships stock them ?

Boz

Posted on: 26 February 2002 by Martin Payne
The website is here.

They are thoroughly non-ferous.

cheers, Martin

[This message was edited by Martin Payne on TUESDAY 26 February 2002 at 13:37.]

Posted on: 27 February 2002 by kevinrt
When we got rid of the carpets and went over to bare boards I bought Target Spike Shoes to go under the rack and speaker spikes. I assumed that this was the solution with wood floors.
Now, seeing that no-one has suggested them in this thread, I suppose that they may in some way compromise the sound of a system. I will try a listening test some time, but would appreciate some feedback. Should I get rid of them? If so does this apply to the rack and speakers?