Flatcap 2 or another Nap 150

Posted by: Winnie on 02 December 2003

It's time for another upgrade, but here's the dilemma, do I add a Flatcap 2 or another Nap 150 to my system (which can be found in my profile). Has anyone heard the difference? Admittedly, running a Naim system without a Cap is probably foolhardy, so have I answered my own question? However I would like to read your thoughts on the matter.
Thanks.
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Markus S
CD 5 (or 5i); Flatcap; then 150.

In that order, or you'll be hanged.
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Naimed-In-NY
As the prior response indicates, the "source first" philosophy probably would dictate upgrading the cdp first. Not everyone follows that philosophy. Although I generally agree with "source first," for my own reasons, I got into Naim with an amp and preamp and now am saving up for a Naim cdp. If you want to upgrade your amp first, I would suggest that rather than adding a second NAP 150, that you sell the one you have and buy a single NAP 200. (I would think that the cost of a NAP 200 is approximately the cost of a new NAP 150 plus the value of your existing NAP 150.) In my opinion, the NAP 200 is definitively better than the NAP 150 (as it should be given the price difference). Although I have not compared one NAP 200 versus two NAP 150s, you may want to before adding a second 150.

Good luck.

MBM
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Winnie
Thanks for the replies guys, I am also of the view that the source is the single most important component i.e rubbish in, rubbish out, but my CD3 is not that bad is it? Or is it that the CD5/CD5i is so much better?
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Wolf
I had a CD 3.5 just before the CD 5 came out and was displeased when that happend so soon. My desler let me upgrade at a minor extra cost. I did hear a smoother and clearer presentation which was helped along with adding a FC2. I'm very happy with the presentation. But if you want to really change, I'd save up and hunt down a s/h CDX.

I also have the NAP 150 and am very happy with it but wouldn't think of biamping this low in the range. Leave that for later.

Life is analogue
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Markus S
Winnie,

the CD 5 can be upgraded with a *cap. When you get a Flatcap after the CD 5, you'll upgrade both your source and the amp at the same time as the Flatcap will also power your 112. If you get the Flatcap while you still have the CD 3 - well, personally, I wouldn't like it.
Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Winnie
Okay guys, you've convinced me. It seems that I'll not be welcome on these forums again if I don't upgrade my source. I'd like to thank you all for your time and advice.

Keep it Naim.

Winnie
Posted on: 03 December 2003 by Maxi Me
The 112/150 is already a very capable amp combination. I would have thought a *cap would be a more effective upgrade than another 150.(plus a snaxo for active? not sure you can passive bi-amp with Naim gear?) Either that or a 200 if it is more power you are after.

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It seems that I'll not be welcome on these forums again if I don't upgrade my source


Everyone is welcome. However all viewpoints are (equally and democratically) attacked by somebody who disagrees Big Grin

I don't know how CD3 compares with CD5, time for a friendly dealer demo and decide for yourself?

Seth
Posted on: 03 December 2003 by Markus S
Just to make sure: my "or you'll be hanged" coment is in riposte to what you've written in your profile and not to be taken literally Wink.

Also, Maxi Me is right: whatever you say on this forum, someone will always disagree. If you said, for example, the sun shines today, somebody would come along and point out that all you have evidence of is that some minutes ago, the sun was still shining, and that it is imprudent to draw conclusions about the side of the sun which you can't see from here.
Posted on: 04 December 2003 by Winnie
Thanks once again guys, however, your responses to my dry and perhaps black wit were not necessary. I should explain that I was only joking and all of your viewpoints were surveyed very carefully indeed, so much so infact that I managed to get to a Naim open day yesterday, at my local Hi-Fi shop, and spoke to a Naim engineer about my dilemma. I'm sure you are all dying to find out what the outcome was? Well, I'm now the owner of a Flatcap 2. Firstly, I discussed your views and you are all safe. So, why not the source? There is a school of thought that thinks that when a product is superceeded it becomes incapable. Any owner of older Naim gear will no doubt disagree. So, the CD 3 stays, for now. Here is the swinger, my Nac 112 is powering my Stageline, this makes buying a Flatcap 2 a viable option because my Turntable is another source which would benefit from the *Cap. Phew! I'll keep you posted on potential improvements, I pick up the*Cap on Tuesday so , watch this space.

Winnie Big Grin
Posted on: 04 December 2003 by Maxi Me
Having heard what the FC2 did to my CD5 and Nait5 I predict
quote:
Winnie Big Grin
on Tuesday!

Seth
Posted on: 04 December 2003 by Markus S
Well, I didn't see a stageline in your profile, so I didn't take it into consideration. Glad to hear you're sorted.
Posted on: 04 December 2003 by Winnie
Markus, I'm really sorry, I omitted it to catch you out Roll Eyes I've actually got no idea why I left it out, please find my profile updated.
Thanks once again to you all, it's nice to know that I'm not alone when it comes to my emotional attachment to Naim products (hope that doesn't sound too perverse?) Red Face
Looking forward to Tuesday!
Posted on: 14 December 2003 by Winnie
So, having run the Flatcap 2 in I am pleased to report that I am Big Grin. The biggest single improvement was with the Stageline, I almost considered never going back to CDs!

Take it easy.

Winnie
Posted on: 15 December 2003 by Wolf
YEAH for Winnie !!!

a good choice but then I see you also have the 150. I have it too, a good amp.

Life is analogue