The old bands were better!

Yes, i completely agree.

Why do all these new bands look so plastic on stage. Also they keep on using these morbid minor notes in thier songs.
New music is utterly boring IMHO. Coldplay sums it up, It's cold and dose'nt play and on top of that the recordings are utter pants.
Give me all the seventies bands anytime, when music used to be so much fun! Live or Studio!

In fact if i were todays youth, i would'nt of even bothered with hifi, i would of took up some other hobby, music would of been completely unimportant to me. Even today's dance music is utter pants!

regards

In fairness, we hear what the record companies let us hear. When they sign bullshit, we hear bullshit. The bands who want to get signed must conform to the template the record company lays out or they die in obscurity.

Maybe the reason the bands look plastic is because the people they play to are plastic. In the 60's it wasn't cool to be into money. Now, the people who go to rock concerts drive off in their BMWs after. $600 to see the Stones? Gawd!

I always avoid Sony as much as i can no matter what they are involved in. They might be a big successful company but they are so cheesy it's unbelievable.

I love Uriah Heep, i know them personally and to me they are one of the most successful underrated rock bands of all time. Still going strong!
How many mordern bands will have the stamina?

regards

I have to agree, I was watching an old live concert of Queen yesterday morning. My comments to my wife were that there a few bands today made of musicians. Freddy was more than a showman, he could also play a keyboard fairly well too.

And I also was cheering him on for that legendary hairy chest (being shaggy myself).
He even had a few empties on the piano.
Nowadays a performer would have a hissy fit if someone didn't clear their drinks.

They just don't have that grunge factor these days. Even the "hard" bands are overproduced to the point that they are like a lindt chocolate.

Dave

yeah motorhead,

Haven't heard them in ages. Yesterday afternoon I had Pantera, old Metallica, Ministry, White Zombie all cranking at 11 o'clock on the 32.5!

Even my son said it was loud!

Dave

Chaps

This is a somewhat disappointing thread. Music is alive and is forever changing. I dare say your parents were making similar comments several years ago.

You are all showing your age.

Regards

Mick

There are lots of great musicians you can go to see. Some older groups were dross, some were great - it's the same now. If you don't believe this then try to get to hear Karine Polwart or Lou Rhodes. It's not all X-Factor type rubbish.

Yes we had great bands in the 70s and I agree that Uriah Heep were among them, but the 70s also gave us Mud, Sweet, Kenny and John Travolta; it also saw the Bee Gees descend from a group that made excellent albums into disco. For every album by The Clash or Desperate Bicycles there was a dreadful offering from Chic, KC and the Sunshine Band or the soundtracks from Saturday Night Fever or Grease. The 80s gave us Duran Duran and Bros (or were they 90s) - I rest my case.

It is the same today - same as it ever was.

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Chaps

This is a somewhat disappointing thread.

Which rather begs the question: Why post a reply to it...?

Deane

I cannot answer that.

Mick

I'm with you. Misty-eyed nostalgia tends to ignore the utter dross around 'years ago'. Music changes, what we expect/want from performance changes.

Chayro, it is not that there is nothing as good as the old stuff, it is that there is nothing you personally like as much.

Bruce

I think that there may well be a degree of "rose-tinted glasses" here.
For every great band of the 60's there were crap acts, one-hit-wonders & manufactured pop bands. Same goes for all the different eras of pop in general, I guess.
One thing that may well be worse now is that I find it harder to access new music of a wide variety on the radio. The playlists now on radio 1 & 2, Virgin, even XFM, are really quite limited & similar.
The same could be said of music magazines, Q, NME et al. Its all a bit too formulated for me now. The marketing has taken over from real substance, I think.
One good reason for keeping a good eye on the music section of this (& other similar) forum.
matt.

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Chayro, it is not that there is nothing as good as the old stuff, it is that there is nothing you personally like as much.

There's a lot of truth in that. Music is a matter of taste. And there was a lot of crap going on in every era.

Still, if you compare the best acts of then to the best acts now, is there anyone around now that compares to Hendrix, Sly, Tull, Zep, Joplin, The Band? Maybe there is, but I'm not aware of them.

"Still, if you compare the best acts of then to the best acts now, is there anyone around now that compares to Hendrix, Sly, Tull, Zep, Joplin, The Band? Maybe there is, but I'm not aware of them."

As you say - ones mans meat - personally I couldn't listen to any of the bands you mention - Tull always were cringworthy twaddle imo whether he could play his flute standing on one leg or not. I could give you a list of twenty great bands of the last 20 years but if you like the 'hairy stuff' you probably wouldn't like them yourself.

Stange that we seem to think it harder to hear new music now than in the 70's. Not true I say. Then you had basically one radio station and one or two TV pop progs. You also picked up new record ideas from mates, or in the record shop.

Now I get new music tips from reviews in the press, websites, podcasts, forums like this, and a wider digital radio network (including 6Music which is far less packaged then R1). Without even mentioning the fact I can listen to samples online from all sorts of artists before buying. There are even nifty websites that direct you along the lines of 'If you like this then why not listen to...' as well as the vast pool of MySpace stuff....

Want to find new artists? Open your eyes and ears!

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Originally posted by Stephen Tate:
I love Uriah Heep, i know them personally and to me they are one of the most successful underrated rock bands of all time. Still going strong!
How many mordern bands will have the stamina?

regards

I'd imagine the likes of Uriah Heep have to keep going because they got locked into crap contracts and never made any money. Unlike today's artistes who get the best contract sorted out for them and then come up with the music.

I remember when all we had was the Melody Maker and a couple of hours of John Peel on a sunday afternoon, and you think it was better then ? There is so much music around now, and so many good musicians, there is really no excuse for being stuck in a time warp.

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Originally posted by bornwina:
I could give you a list of twenty great bands of the last 20 years ....

And they are .....

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Originally posted by Diode100:
....there is really no excuse for being stuck in a time warp.

Oh yes there is ...

It's astounding, time is fleeting
Madness takes its toll
But listen closely, not for very much longer
I've got to keep control

I remember doing the TIme Warp
Drinking those moments when
The blackness would hit me and the void would be calling
Let's do the time warp again...
Let's do the time warp again!

It's just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
Let's do the Time Warp again!


They don't write 'em like that any more.

Today it's all manufactured groups so I'm not going to give them house room ... now where's my Monkees Anthology ... that was great music.

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Originally posted by Diode100:

quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Tate:
I love Uriah Heep, i know them personally and to me they are one of the most successful underrated rock bands of all time. Still going strong!
How many mordern bands will have the stamina?

regards

I'd imagine the likes of Uriah Heep have to keep going because they got locked into crap contracts and never made any money. Unlike today's artistes who get the best contract sorted out for them and then come up with the music.

I remember when all we had was the Melody Maker and a couple of hours of John Peel on a sunday afternoon, and you think it was better then ? There is so much music around now, and so many good musicians, there is really no excuse for being stuck in a time warp.

What utter nonsense.

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Originally posted by ROTF:

Today it's all manufactured groups so I'm not going to give them house room ... now where's my Monkees Anthology ... that was great music.

Oh come on, Chas Chandler put the Experience together, Peter Green put Fleetwood Mac together, Oldham did a scissors job on the original Stones, are they not then manufactured groups ?

And as for the TimeWarp, if you didn't do it at the old Chelsea Theatre, well, you just didn't do it at all. I favourite was always Going Home, when they came out with the cloak and lead him off.

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Originally posted by Stephen Tate:

What utter nonsense.

I shouldn't think so, not really, sucessful modern bands won't have to drag their ass out on the road in thirty years time, because they will have made enough to retire on out of the first couple of albums, go ask ColdPlay, Dido, or even Fine Young Cannibals.

Some canny Rock stuff has come out of the last few decades. its a bit lively for me these days but apparently the kids are down with it

Apparently the Red Hot Chilli Peppers are quite popular and have a longeivity thing going on. Not sure about the socks on the jocks thing mind.

I have been listening to Muse tonight and would be prepared in a moment of heightened agitation to part with my well earned coin to have a shiny disc of theirs. Would even be prepared to venture out to a local venue to take in the atmosphere of the riotous goings on.

I used to like Nirvana (no not the 60's version ROTF) and even saw them once, though i thought that the smashing of guitars had been done before and was distressed at the anarchaic abandon on show. The drummer seems to have gone on to provide some tuneful rock anthems for a disjointed Society used to listening to light hearted dance choones.

Queens of the Stone Age. Does this mean they dress up as ladies of a bye gone age and play loud music. I can listen to up to two tracks in a row before I get Nick Drake back in the cdp. Certainly I don't need virgin olive oil in the ears when those lads have finished with me.

The kids of today........................

Diccus

I suspect that most of us have a fondness for the music of our youth.

Although I have a strong interest in the seventies (I was 16 in 76 and would recommend this to anyone) , what I really enjoy is discovering new bands today.

I don't want longevity. I want excitement and enthusiasm. And there is plenty there today.

Amy Winehouse
The Fratellis
Panic! At The Disco
The Pipettes
Delays
The Zutons
Primal Scream
The Raconteurs
Eels
Placebo


Nigel

Just been to hear a Fraimed 555/552/500/SL2 system. Just about anything that was played on it sounded like something I'd buy - even Country music!

(Only thing that sounded bad was Peter Gabriel on SACD)

Makes me wonder whether even Plastic Bertrand would sound good through such a system...

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Originally posted by Deane F:
(Only thing that sounded bad was Peter Gabriel on SACD)

With a 555 as thr front-end, Deane, I should think the Peter Gabriel must have sounded incredibly quiet...