Is Terry Henry The Coolest Man in the World?
Posted by: matthewr on 06 January 2004
Not only is he, whatever the idiots at FIFA say, the best footballer in the world he is now in the coolest advert ever.
Excellent work by Animal on the drums as well.
Matthew
PS Crap cars though.
Excellent work by Animal on the drums as well.
Matthew
PS Crap cars though.
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by matthewr
"Thanks for the thoughtful reply"
I am typing in between hands of Poker. Its a great game but there is a lot of dead time where you just keep folding.
(Profits in Decemeber £525).
"I'll keep an eye on Charlton, but the fact that they could fall apart with a few changes worries me"
They have a very talented young manager and a key central midfielder but could lose one or both over the next year or so and, parciularly if they lose the manager, could well slip back into mediocrity.
"Does Newcastle consistently obtain among the best young talent? (similar to the Expos and Marlins)"
I don't think anyone does that consistently in football. Apart from West Ham (known as the Acadamy of Football for that very reason) but its going to be hard enough following a Premiership team let alone Division 1 team.
Newcastle do have a lot of good young players at the moment though -- epsecially Kieron Dyer who would be something like Soriano in prosepct terms. They also have Alan Shearer who would probably translate as a Roger Clemens (i.e. Future Hall of Famer still playing at an amazing level given his age).
Overall though Football is not quite like US sports as it has no College or minor League equivalent so lots of young players come from lower division or smaller clubs rather than from thier own youth teams. To find Expos or Marlins equivalents you'd need to pick a lower divsion team -- the obvious one being Crewe -- but that would be like me supporting a Divsion 1-AA college team or soemthing.
"Is Newcastle known for operating its club with class?"
Well a number of the players were allegedly involved in a recent high profile, erm, situation that was about as bad as it gets but cannot be discussed for fear of legal action. And their Chairman (nearest thing to owner I guess) once famously described the girls from Newcastle as "slappers" and said their fans were stupid for buying replica shirts at exhorbitant prices.
But generally they are a good club and well liked by neutrals with a reputation for attacking football. Thay have fantastic fans who fill one of England's biggest stadiums and remain incredibly loyal.
Manager Sir Bobby Robson is a living (barely) legend having coached England to a WC semi-final in 1990, won major domestic and Euopean honours in England, Holland (PSV), Spain (Barcelona) and Portugal (Benfica). He is deeply loved by everyone and is known as Uncle Bobby. He once told me and my mate Stuart to "Bugger off" in a bar in Cascais Portugal (no doubt we desevered it). US equivalent would be like Dick Vermeil crossed with Dusty Baker.
Matthew
Matthew
I am typing in between hands of Poker. Its a great game but there is a lot of dead time where you just keep folding.
(Profits in Decemeber £525).
"I'll keep an eye on Charlton, but the fact that they could fall apart with a few changes worries me"
They have a very talented young manager and a key central midfielder but could lose one or both over the next year or so and, parciularly if they lose the manager, could well slip back into mediocrity.
"Does Newcastle consistently obtain among the best young talent? (similar to the Expos and Marlins)"
I don't think anyone does that consistently in football. Apart from West Ham (known as the Acadamy of Football for that very reason) but its going to be hard enough following a Premiership team let alone Division 1 team.
Newcastle do have a lot of good young players at the moment though -- epsecially Kieron Dyer who would be something like Soriano in prosepct terms. They also have Alan Shearer who would probably translate as a Roger Clemens (i.e. Future Hall of Famer still playing at an amazing level given his age).
Overall though Football is not quite like US sports as it has no College or minor League equivalent so lots of young players come from lower division or smaller clubs rather than from thier own youth teams. To find Expos or Marlins equivalents you'd need to pick a lower divsion team -- the obvious one being Crewe -- but that would be like me supporting a Divsion 1-AA college team or soemthing.
"Is Newcastle known for operating its club with class?"
Well a number of the players were allegedly involved in a recent high profile, erm, situation that was about as bad as it gets but cannot be discussed for fear of legal action. And their Chairman (nearest thing to owner I guess) once famously described the girls from Newcastle as "slappers" and said their fans were stupid for buying replica shirts at exhorbitant prices.
But generally they are a good club and well liked by neutrals with a reputation for attacking football. Thay have fantastic fans who fill one of England's biggest stadiums and remain incredibly loyal.
Manager Sir Bobby Robson is a living (barely) legend having coached England to a WC semi-final in 1990, won major domestic and Euopean honours in England, Holland (PSV), Spain (Barcelona) and Portugal (Benfica). He is deeply loved by everyone and is known as Uncle Bobby. He once told me and my mate Stuart to "Bugger off" in a bar in Cascais Portugal (no doubt we desevered it). US equivalent would be like Dick Vermeil crossed with Dusty Baker.
Matthew
Matthew
Posted on: 07 January 2004 by ErikL
This is way too complicated. I'll just pull for the team with the best beer sponsor whenever a game's broadcast. 
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by Richard S
quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Robinson:
"Thanks for the thoughtful reply"
(Overall though Football is not quite like US sports as it has no College or minor League equivalent so lots of young players come from lower division or smaller clubs rather than from thier own youth teams. To find Expos or Marlins equivalents you'd need to pick a lower divsion team -- the obvious one being Crewe -- but that would be like me supporting a Divsion 1-AA college team or soemthing.
Matthew
An honourable mention for the Railwaymen. Hurrah ! (Just don't mention Telford United at the moment)
regards
Richard S
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by Former member
Beer sponsors..
http://www.karen-earl.co.uk/theinsidetrack/sportsbibles.pdf
It looks like your choice is Liverpool (ugh - Carlsberg), though Leeds could slip in if you like your spirits stronger..
Newcastle used to be sponsored by Newcastle Brown though...
http://www.karen-earl.co.uk/theinsidetrack/sportsbibles.pdf
It looks like your choice is Liverpool (ugh - Carlsberg), though Leeds could slip in if you like your spirits stronger..
Newcastle used to be sponsored by Newcastle Brown though...
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by greeny
quote:
"Does Newcastle consistently obtain among the best young talent? (similar to the Expos and Marlins)"
I don't think anyone does that consistently in football. Apart from West Ham (known as the Acadamy of Football for that very reason) but its going to be hard enough following a Premiership team let alone Division 1 team.
Newcastle do have a lot of good young players at the moment though -- epsecially Kieron Dyer who would be something like Soriano in prosepct terms. They also have Alan Shearer who would probably translate as a Roger Clemens (i.e. Future Hall of Famer still playing at an amazing level given his age).
Of course Matthew (and most other non fans) may be biased against Manchester United but the fact reamains that their success in the last 10 years has been founded on a group of players from the Youth team all of whom have been key elements to their success (Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Neville, Butt, Beckham, etc) and although this trend has diminished they still bring more player than most (Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher etc) through their reserves/youth setups.
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by Dave J
quote:
- Is Newcastle known for operating its club with class?
For a cultural fit, think in terms of the Minnesota Vikings but with a lot more drinking involved.
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by matthewr
Richard S -- Crewe have one of the best named fanzines as in SuperDarioLand.
Greeny -- Man Utd's "golden generation" appears to have been a one off. But this is not meant to knock them at all. The nature of youth policies for big clubs is that even with the best resources and first pick from the best kids big clubs probably only produce one player every two years or so who actually makes it into your first team. They do produce lots of other good players of course but they tend to be not quite good enough and go and play at other clubs (Savage, Chadwick, that gambling chap at Newcastle, etc.)
And whatever Man Utd's youth policy knowing Ludwig's views and interests in sports reasonably well he is not a natural Manchester Utd supporter.
Matthew
Greeny -- Man Utd's "golden generation" appears to have been a one off. But this is not meant to knock them at all. The nature of youth policies for big clubs is that even with the best resources and first pick from the best kids big clubs probably only produce one player every two years or so who actually makes it into your first team. They do produce lots of other good players of course but they tend to be not quite good enough and go and play at other clubs (Savage, Chadwick, that gambling chap at Newcastle, etc.)
And whatever Man Utd's youth policy knowing Ludwig's views and interests in sports reasonably well he is not a natural Manchester Utd supporter.
Matthew
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by Former member
quote:
And whatever Man Utd's youth policy knowing Ludwig's views and interests in sports reasonably well he is not a natural Manchester Utd supporter.
I'm not so sure I agree. Ludwig fits the most important criteria for being a ManU fan....he is not from Manchester.
ag
Posted on: 08 January 2004 by ErikL
I know I'm not a ManU fan. A roommate in college was a ManU fan (born in England) and was obnoxious as f*ck about it.
Posted on: 09 January 2004 by Former member
ZZ is, of course, the best player in the world in the best league in the world.
Thierry, although undoubtedly cool and wonderful to watch, squanders way too many chances. I'd love to see him scoring more often for France, especially against England, but his international record isn't particularly good.
For my money, Thierry isn't even the best player in the Arse's history. That would be Charlie George at his peak. And let's not forget Peter Marinello. No, on second thoughts...
Thierry, although undoubtedly cool and wonderful to watch, squanders way too many chances. I'd love to see him scoring more often for France, especially against England, but his international record isn't particularly good.
For my money, Thierry isn't even the best player in the Arse's history. That would be Charlie George at his peak. And let's not forget Peter Marinello. No, on second thoughts...
Posted on: 09 January 2004 by matthewr
<cheers Ludwig for renouncing ManU-ness>
What a thoroughly decent human being.
What a thoroughly decent human being.
Posted on: 09 January 2004 by MichaelC
quote:
Originally posted by Alan Scott:
For my money, Thierry isn't even the best player in the Arse's history. That would be Charlie George at his peak. And let's not forget Peter Marinello. No, on second thoughts...
We're in danger of the greatest ever player thread here...
Mike
Posted on: 09 January 2004 by Chris Dolan
quote:
What a thoroughly decent human being.
Yawn
Posted on: 09 January 2004 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelC:
We're in danger of the greatest ever player thread here...
Mike
How about greatest players you ever saw who aren't playing now...
Three for starters:
George Best
Charlie George
Denis Law
Jimmy Johnstone
Posted on: 11 January 2004 by TomK
quote:
Originally posted by Alan Scott:quote:
Originally posted by MichaelC:
We're in danger of the greatest ever player thread here...
Mike
How about greatest players you ever saw who aren't playing now...
Three for starters:
George Best
Charlie George
Denis Law
Jimmy Johnstone
Jim Baxter
Willie Henderson
Brian Laudrup
Posted on: 11 January 2004 by Former member
Is it possible, Tom, that you're of the Ibrox persuasion?
I'm with you on Slim Jim. Add him to the four I mentioned in my top three.
Alan
I'm with you on Slim Jim. Add him to the four I mentioned in my top three.
Alan
Posted on: 12 January 2004 by TomK
quote:
Originally posted by Alan Scott:
Is it possible, Tom, that you're of the Ibrox persuasion?
I'm with you on Slim Jim. Add him to the four I mentioned in my top three.
Alan
How sad to be so transparent! So much for being a deep, complex person.
Don't forget though that Baxter and Henderson played in World or European selects (can't remember which). How many Scottish players would be picked now?
Posted on: 12 January 2004 by matthewr
"How many Scottish players would be picked now?"
Well Christian Dailly has just been elected to the Scottish Hall of Fame if that helps.
One can imagine reading the list: Baxter, Law, Dalglish, Dailly...
Matthew
Well Christian Dailly has just been elected to the Scottish Hall of Fame if that helps.
One can imagine reading the list: Baxter, Law, Dalglish, Dailly...
Matthew
Posted on: 12 January 2004 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Robinson:
One can imagine reading the list: Baxter, Law, Dalglish, Dailly...
Matthew
It wasn't all that long ago that every decent English side had at least one key Scottish player. There was usually a short-arsed enforcer and a temperamental playmaker. Off the top of my heid: Souness, Bremner, Gray, Dalglish, Mackay, McLintock, Gilzean, Cooke, MacKenzie... OK, maybe it was a long time ago, but you get the point.
Now they're all French, Dutch, Eastern European, and (very occasionally) English. What does all this mean? Buggered if I know.
Alan
Posted on: 12 January 2004 by Former member
Lots has been said and written about the demise of Scottish football, but I don't think there are any really convincing arguments that don't apply to some degree in England (e.g. the Playstation excuse).
Whatever, it's everyone's loss. Time was when signing someone from Scotland was a real buzz - you usually got something interesting - as Alan says - a psycho or a near genius and occasionally both...
One of my abiding footie memories is of watching a big game (World Club Champonship?) featuring Celtic against some South American bunch who gave Jimmy Johnstone a right kicking. He just kept getting up and making chumps out of them aagain (and getting another kicking for his pains). Wonderful stuff.
nick.lees at btinternet.com
Whatever, it's everyone's loss. Time was when signing someone from Scotland was a real buzz - you usually got something interesting - as Alan says - a psycho or a near genius and occasionally both...
One of my abiding footie memories is of watching a big game (World Club Champonship?) featuring Celtic against some South American bunch who gave Jimmy Johnstone a right kicking. He just kept getting up and making chumps out of them aagain (and getting another kicking for his pains). Wonderful stuff.
nick.lees at btinternet.com