naim screensaver for mac
Posted by: woody on 27 February 2005
Given the apparent number of Mac users on this forum, and presumably therefore Mac users who also use Naim, isn't it time Naim gave us a Mac screensaver?
Posted on: 27 February 2005 by thirty three and a third
Here, here! I second that!
john
john
Posted on: 27 February 2005 by Steve Bull
All sounds a bit anorakish to me.... yeah, I want one too!
Steve
Steve
Posted on: 27 February 2005 by Peter Litwack
Yes! I'm a confirmed Mac addict, and would love to see this ported for OSX - the greatest OS in existence. Rumor has it that several prominent heavies at NANA are also Mac users. Maybe they could exert some influence? Please?
Posted on: 27 February 2005 by Tam
Yes, sounds like a good idea - I don't like being unable to see it. Perhaps all the windows users can tell us enlightened folk what we're missing!
regards,
Tam
regards,
Tam
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by andy c
Hi,
My mate darkan9el did this one for me - rather good i reckon...
andy c!
My mate darkan9el did this one for me - rather good i reckon...
andy c!
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by woody
that's nice but it's only a jpeg not a screensaver
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by GML
quote:Originally posted by Peter Litwack:
Yes! I'm a confirmed Mac addict, and would love to see this ported for OSX - the greatest OS in existence.
I'm buying a new PC soon. I don't know anything about Mac's. What's the main advantage of the Mac over PC (if there is one) and how does the OSX compare with Windows XP.
In other words, why did you favour the Mac?
TIA.
Regards...George.
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by woody
It's just "naim" text in 3D spinning around but I like it's retro cool
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Kevin-W
quote:Originally posted by GML:
I'm buying a new PC soon. I don't know anything about Mac's. What's the main advantage of the Mac over PC (if there is one) and how does the OSX compare with Windows XP.
In other words, why did you favour the Mac?
TIA.
Regards...George.
George
1. Macs look really, really nice. Dead cool, in fact. Apple's head of design, Jonathan Ive (a Brit!) is a genius. He created the original 1998 iMac, the gorgeous (if slightly impractical) G4 Cube, the G4 iMac, the super-sleek and sexy Titanium Powerbook, the G5 iMac and, of course, the ubiquitous iPod.
2. The Macintosh operating system, Mac OSX, a Unix-based system is fun and easy to use - very intuitive. Windows (even XP) looks clunky by comparison. Mac OSX is also a hell of a lot more stable than Windoze, so you won't get crashes.
3. As a Mac user, you are far less prone to attack by viruses and the like.
4. Macs come bundled with pretty much everything you need, so you don't have to worry about sound cards and the like. You can of course customize your Mac at point of purchase (although upgrade paths are by no means unlimited).
5. Pretty much most software is available for the Mac - Sage and MS Access aren't as far as I know, but who uses those except accountants?
There are two downsides: one, the Mac isn't a great platform for games; two, Macs tend to be a bit more expensive.
But if you buy a Mac, you'll wonder, after using it for just a few days, how you ever put up with PCs.
Some nice Macs here
Kevin
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by Kevin-W:
two, Macs tend to be a bit more expensive.
...and the price never comes down. With a PC its a case of "buy now before it gets cheaper". Macs don't seem to get cheaper; they just get replaced and the old ones withdrawn. I guess its the fundamental difference between them because, as you say, you buy a Mac complete rather than having the option of building one from parts.
Deane
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Tam
quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
...and the price never comes down. With a PC its a case of "buy now before it gets cheaper". Macs don't seem to get cheaper; they just get replaced and the old ones withdrawn. I guess its the fundamental difference between them because, as you say, you buy a Mac complete rather than having the option of building one from parts.
Deane
What about the new mac mini?
http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Tam
I think the best case for buying a mac is this: I love my mac (not in a disturbing way, but rather in the same kind of way as I love my naim), and I know a lot of other mac users feel the same way. I defy anyone to find some pc users who feel the same way.
regards,
Tam
regards,
Tam
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by Tam:quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
...and the price never comes down. With a PC its a case of "buy now before it gets cheaper". Macs don't seem to get cheaper; they just get replaced and the old ones withdrawn. I guess its the fundamental difference between them because, as you say, you buy a Mac complete rather than having the option of building one from parts.
Deane
What about the new mac mini?
http://www.apple.com/uk/macmini/
Yes, the new mini mac is an inexpensive entry point but will it's price ever drop?
Deane
Posted on: 28 February 2005 by Johns Naim
Deane F said:
One could make exactly the same comments re Naim products. One buys a 'system' with all apsects considered; interconnect cables, the cable terminations, earthing, speakers, stands, sources, etc, etc, i.e. a balanced and complimentary package rather than a 'mish-mash' of pieces.
Why is it this is seen as acceptable both in performance terms and the cost involved re Naim products, yet some cannot make the same jump of simple logic to a computer?
Why should the price of a Naim 5i come down? It sounds better than most competing products in it's price bracket, and a few more that are even above it in cost.
Why should the price of a Mac Mini come down? - It's superb VFM taken as an overall package especially with the iLife suite, Mac OS (indisputably the best desktop OS out there) software that comes with it. As a productive and life enhancing tool, it is superb.
When you consider what a computer such as a Mac can do for your life, re entertainment, communication, your daily newspaper, photograph organiser, etc, etc, AND the ease and pleasure of use a Mac provides, it looks ultra-fabulistic value for money when it a) costs almost exactly 1/3rd the asking price of a Nait 5i which is a tool for simply playing back recorded music. And will not do so without the addition of either speakers or a source.
In terms of what you pay, and for what you get, in terms of entertainment/usuage value, it is the Naim that needs to get cheaper, not the computer. Contentious yes, and I can already feel the screams and flames acoming perhaps.. :-) - but ask yourself this - given the amount of posting you do, which do you use more - your computer or your Naim??
Heheh, end of rant.
*Mac fan goes back to being nice, gentle soul*
Cheers
John..
quote:..and the price never comes down. With a PC its a case of "buy now before it gets cheaper". Macs don't seem to get cheaper; they just get replaced and the old ones withdrawn. I guess its the fundamental difference between them because, as you say, you buy a Mac complete rather than having the option of building one from parts.
..... Yes, the new mini mac is an inexpensive entry point but will it's price ever drop?
One could make exactly the same comments re Naim products. One buys a 'system' with all apsects considered; interconnect cables, the cable terminations, earthing, speakers, stands, sources, etc, etc, i.e. a balanced and complimentary package rather than a 'mish-mash' of pieces.
Why is it this is seen as acceptable both in performance terms and the cost involved re Naim products, yet some cannot make the same jump of simple logic to a computer?
Why should the price of a Naim 5i come down? It sounds better than most competing products in it's price bracket, and a few more that are even above it in cost.
Why should the price of a Mac Mini come down? - It's superb VFM taken as an overall package especially with the iLife suite, Mac OS (indisputably the best desktop OS out there) software that comes with it. As a productive and life enhancing tool, it is superb.
When you consider what a computer such as a Mac can do for your life, re entertainment, communication, your daily newspaper, photograph organiser, etc, etc, AND the ease and pleasure of use a Mac provides, it looks ultra-fabulistic value for money when it a) costs almost exactly 1/3rd the asking price of a Nait 5i which is a tool for simply playing back recorded music. And will not do so without the addition of either speakers or a source.
In terms of what you pay, and for what you get, in terms of entertainment/usuage value, it is the Naim that needs to get cheaper, not the computer. Contentious yes, and I can already feel the screams and flames acoming perhaps.. :-) - but ask yourself this - given the amount of posting you do, which do you use more - your computer or your Naim??
Heheh, end of rant.
*Mac fan goes back to being nice, gentle soul*
Cheers
John..
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Jay
quote:Originally posted by Johns Naim:
given the amount of posting you do, which do you use more - your computer or your Naim??
Nice one John
I am always perplexed with us folks who are so involved with hifi, yet can't appreciate the parallels with computing or home theatre.
Jay
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Deane F
I feel no compassion about computers whatsoever. They are just a tool for me. I can understand being passionate about hifi given that music is a matter of profound importance to my soul. The forum is not a profound matter of the soul for me, nor is surfing the web, word-processing, database compiling, solitaire, or whatever.
BTW, yes, I do a lot of posting but then I'm housebound with an 81 year-old father-in-law with not much to do with my days. Seems that people can't resist the odd (subtle at times) crack about people that post a lot and why aren't they listening to their collection of music etc? In fact its possible to do both at the same time.
Deane
BTW, yes, I do a lot of posting but then I'm housebound with an 81 year-old father-in-law with not much to do with my days. Seems that people can't resist the odd (subtle at times) crack about people that post a lot and why aren't they listening to their collection of music etc? In fact its possible to do both at the same time.
Deane
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Jay
quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
Seems that people can't resist the odd (subtle at times) crack about people that post a lot and why aren't they listening to their collection of music etc?
Just like some can't resist to have the odd crack about mac's maybe? That was what John's post was all about....
I'm sure that John didn't mean to offend you and you certainly don't need to defend your posting rate. Is it so hard to think that there are people out there that care as much about computing as you do about music?
Best.
Jay
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by Jay:quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
Seems that people can't resist the odd (subtle at times) crack about people that post a lot and why aren't they listening to their collection of music etc?
Just like some can't resist to have the odd crack about mac's maybe? That was what John's post was all about....
I'm sure that John didn't mean to offend you and you certainly don't need to defend your posting rate. Is it so hard to think that there are people out there that care as much about computing as you do about music?
Best.
Jay
I wasn't offended.
I made no cracks about Macs.
I am interested in discussion because this is a forum.
Deane
Posted on: 01 March 2005 by Deane F
Oh, and to answer your question its not so hard to imagine... etc
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Jay
quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
I wasn't offended.
I made no cracks about Macs.
I am interested in discussion because this is a forum.
Deane
Sorry Deane, I must've mis-interpreted your post!
Jay
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Deane F
Mac owners are probably rightfully proud of their computers.
But the ubiquity of computers these days surely wouldn't have been possible with a proprietary architecture like the Mac? (Excuse my poor computer diction.) Personal computers have become widespread because of the PC architecture and Windows. Whether that makes sense is another thing entirely.
Deane
But the ubiquity of computers these days surely wouldn't have been possible with a proprietary architecture like the Mac? (Excuse my poor computer diction.) Personal computers have become widespread because of the PC architecture and Windows. Whether that makes sense is another thing entirely.
Deane
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Kevin-W
quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
Mac owners are probably rightfully proud of their computers.
But the ubiquity of computers these days surely wouldn't have been possible with a proprietary architecture like the Mac? (Excuse my poor computer diction.) Personal computers have become widespread because of the PC architecture and Windows. Whether that makes sense is another thing entirely.
Deane
Not because it's any good, though. Even back in the 1980s, the MS-DOS operating sysem was rightfully regarded as crap, as was Windoze in the early 90s. It's all down to marketing - VHS became the video standard even though it was, by common consent inferior in every respect to Betamax, in every respect but marketing...
And, of course, Gates' realisation a long time ago that hardware was a commodity, and that software is where all the money was.
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by Kevin-W:
hardware was a commodity, and that software is where all the money was.
The exact reverse being true with the Mac, no?
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by Jay
I think John was on the money when he talked about the Mac being a well designed "system"*, aka Naim, rather than a collection of components, bundling togther.
There's pros and cons for either side, you take your money and takes your pick!
I have both an apple powerbook and shuttle PC at home, the fifth I've built. For everyday stuff the Mac just rocks, but try and play a game and the PC is king.
Jay
* as long as that "system" doesn't involve playing games!
There's pros and cons for either side, you take your money and takes your pick!
I have both an apple powerbook and shuttle PC at home, the fifth I've built. For everyday stuff the Mac just rocks, but try and play a game and the PC is king.
Jay
* as long as that "system" doesn't involve playing games!
Posted on: 02 March 2005 by garyi
Deane, not at all.
The mac hardware and software is a symbosis, both need each other and both work well together.
The same cannot be said for windows vs 8 trillion different PC manufactures.
The mac hardware and software is a symbosis, both need each other and both work well together.
The same cannot be said for windows vs 8 trillion different PC manufactures.