Chinese or curry?
Posted by: Spock on 15 January 2006
I’m a curry man myself. Chinese is OK now and again but it can’t top a good curry.
Spock
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Malky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steve Bull:
A good Chinese is great, but most are awful.
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I find you have to pay through the nose for a good Chinese (With the exception of Soho).
Curries tend to be consistently better.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by garyi
Andrew, do you know even the most tasty soups of all time are rarely memorable, they are just, well, soup really arn't they?
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by garyi
Steve I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese. I believe they are all in it together and have a rota to eat at each others restaurants. Because every one I check out had loads of Chinese eating in them so I thought I was safe.
It was just the same in San Fransico as well, just because the Chinese are eating there does not mean its good. I would go so far as to say the Chinese eat just as much shit as we do, and have as much capability at food, only theirs seems interesting to us, when infact if you break it down, crispy beef and sweet and sour pork, are in reality shit food, such as chep pie and mash or tripe.
We eat lots of spuds, they eat lots of rice, face it I am right. In general Chinese food is crap, 90% of Chinese food output in the UK is slop, utter shit which is just adding to the overall shitness of English cuisine in general.
And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together, and don't forget the fourty eight times reheated crispy duck whilst you are at it.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by JonR
"Curry or chinese"?
Chinese.
But gazza...I haven't had a Pizza Hut pizza for ages - aren't you pleased with me??!
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Steve Bull
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Steve I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese. I believe they are all in it together and have a rota to eat at each others restaurants. Because every one I check out had loads of Chinese eating in them so I thought I was safe.
It was just the same in San Fransico as well, just because the Chinese are eating there does not mean its good. I would go so far as to say the Chinese eat just as much shit as we do, and have as much capability at food, only theirs seems interesting to us, when infact if you break it down, crispy beef and sweet and sour pork, are in reality shit food, such as chep pie and mash or tripe.
We eat lots of spuds, they eat lots of rice, face it I am right. In general Chinese food is crap, 90% of Chinese food output in the UK is slop, utter shit which is just adding to the overall shitness of English cuisine in general.
And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together, and don't forget the fourty eight times reheated crispy duck whilst you are at it.
Well when you put it like that... you certainly do have a point. Want to pop round and I'll cook curry?
Steve
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Andrew Randle
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Andrew, do you know even the most tasty soups of all time are rarely memorable, they are just, well, soup really arn't they?
Garyi,
One of the most memorable soups I've had (for all the right reasons) involves pork, melon and scallops. Similar to most Chinese soup it is watery in consistency but packed with flavour in a brothy/stocky kind of way
Andrew
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Andrew Randle
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Steve I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese. I believe they are all in it together and have a rota to eat at each others restaurants. Because every one I check out had loads of Chinese eating in them so I thought I was safe.
It was just the same in San Fransico as well, just because the Chinese are eating there does not mean its good. I would go so far as to say the Chinese eat just as much shit as we do, and have as much capability at food, only theirs seems interesting to us, when infact if you break it down, crispy beef and sweet and sour pork, are in reality shit food, such as chep pie and mash or tripe.
We eat lots of spuds, they eat lots of rice, face it I am right. In general Chinese food is crap, 90% of Chinese food output in the UK is slop, utter shit which is just adding to the overall shitness of English cuisine in general.
And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together, and don't forget the fourty eight times reheated crispy duck whilst you are at it.
Then how about steaming some seabass with some ginger. When done, serve on a plate and put lots of 2" slivers of spring onion on top of it, then heat a small amount (1-2 teaspoons) of sunflower oil until really hot then pour it on top and sizzle the spring onion and top of the fish. Then pour on top some soy sauce that has been specially seasoned for seafood (it is of the correct level of strength too).
If you don't have the special seafood soy sauce, then some light soy sauce will do.
Andrew
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by MichaelC
Both are part of my staple diet although there is a lack of decent restaurants. I am sure I have said that before.
We have a fusion of dishes at home combining both Chinese and Indian cuisine.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by arf005
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
I can see that this is going to be like "The Pizza Thread" of years back.
Rasher, I missed that thread..... Question - did anybody have banana on their pizza, or am I the only weirdo that likes that......???
Finely sliced, added for the last ten mins or so, even with the anchovies, peppers, onions, etc.....mmmmmmmm
Cheers,
Ali
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by Stephen Tate
Ive had some efforts of home indian cooking in the past, and i have to admit nothing beats home cooking imo no matter what you cook.
Most cafes cannot cook english breakfasts!(properly)
How many fish and chip shops do good fish and chips, and look how expensive they are.
Home cooking is best ultimately in my experience, but sometimes it tastes better when someone else does it, although its not...if you see what i mean.
p.s. A blender and grinder are essential kitchen tools when doing indian cooking, and no curry powder - thats cheating.
cheers.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by iDunno
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Steve I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese. I believe they are all in it together and have a rota to eat at each others restaurants. Because every one I check out had loads of Chinese eating in them so I thought I was safe.
It was just the same in San Fransico as well, just because the Chinese are eating there does not mean its good. I would go so far as to say the Chinese eat just as much shit as we do, and have as much capability at food, only theirs seems interesting to us, when infact if you break it down, crispy beef and sweet and sour pork, are in reality shit food, such as chep pie and mash or tripe.
We eat lots of spuds, they eat lots of rice, face it I am right. In general Chinese food is crap, 90% of Chinese food output in the UK is slop, utter shit which is just adding to the overall shitness of English cuisine in general.
And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together, and don't forget the fourty eight times reheated crispy duck whilst you are at it.
WTF??? Garyi, if you had simply said that you don't like Chinese food and had some bad experiences I might still have some respect for you, but it's in pretty poor taste to slur an ethnic minority and an entire nation of people based on this diatribe of baseless accusations and offensive comments.
Posted on: 16 January 2006 by JonR
iDunno,
I ...ahem..dunno
if you're aware, but garyi is a chef by profession, so does know a thing or two about food.
Cheers,
Jon
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by garyi
iDunno I refuse to called a racist. it is fine for everyone to say english food is shit is it not?
The simple fact is in general chinese take aways are shit and the quality of food is shit, and the slur is on the dumb ass English like myself who choose to continue purchasing some of the following products on a weekly basis:
Deep fried chicken or prawn balls, 98% funny fluffy doug stuff.
Sweet and sour XXX, A poor quality sauce, which keeps getting bought because of the English penchance for sweet things.
Chinese Curry. Mostly large pieces of onions in gravy.
Crispy Duck. Too right its a week old.
Spring Roll. Out of the freezer, very very greasy.
Suspicisouly tender grey beef anyone?
What about the sliced pork, always of a conform shape with the slightly red top?
iDunno let me leave you with one observation I made when living in Watford.
We had two chinese takeaways one to the right of us and one to the left. A van would pull up outside both. On the side of the Van was the company name and a statement 'Specialist Meat for the Chinese trade.'
Ponder that one for a while.
FWIW I have had a lot more luck with Indian food, I rate it highly none the least of which because you actually have to chew the meat in the food.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Steve G
Having lived in Asia I do like Chinese food so I have some sympathy for garyi's view of the vast majority of the anglicised stuff we get over here in the uk. I don't personally think it's part of a great conspiracy but more of a business need to pander to the tastes of the target market.
Good Chinese food is truly excellent and to be honest I still find some of the anglicised ok as well. We were in town on Sunday so went for one of those all-you-can-eat buffet lunches and while most of the options available were "crowd pleasers" it was still tasty enough.
In a choice between Chinese and Indian food, especially as delivered by your typical UK takeaway, I'd have to go with the Indian option.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Steve Toy
Indian. Give me a nice ring-stinger any day. A couple of onion bhajis with the yoghurt followed by chicken pathia or Madras with vegetable pillau and Keema naan should do it.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Happy Chick
Despite what we think about Chinese, Indian or other take a ways, when we are knackered or our cupboards are bare they are handy.
They fill a space
Veronika
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Rasher
Rasher, I missed that thread..... Question - did anybody have banana on their pizza, or am I the only weirdo that likes that......???
Finely sliced, added for the last ten mins or so, even with the anchovies, peppers, onions, etc.....mmmmmmmm
Cheers,
Ali[/QUOTE]
Ali. The old thread is still
here, but it's dead, so I guess we could try a new one?
Banana? For ten minutes? How long do you cook them Ali? Max temp oven - no fan - 12 mins tops.
Yup, looks like we need anothe pizza thread.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Mabelode, King of Swords
It's the following statements
". . I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese."
and
"And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together . ."
that are discourteous to Chinese people and to the Chinese members of this Forum in particular.
Steve
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by Yo-yo Master:
It's the following statements
". . I believe there is a conspiracy on the part of the Chinese."
and
"And they are laughing, there must be whole conventions on how to put an English/Chinese menu together . ."
that are discourteous to Chinese people and to the Chinese members of this Forum in particular.
You missed the tail end of that sentence, which should read "if you're a humourless fuck.".
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Mabelode, King of Swords
No. It was discourteous.
Steve
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Stephen Tate
Kebab anyone!
I cannot stand them.
When i visit home, i cant resist double pie & double mash with plenty of liquar -
this used to be a cheap wholesome meal!
cheers
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Tate:
Kebab anyone!
I cannot stand them.
cheers
My local place does a donner kebab pizza.
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by BigH47
quote:
When i visit home, i cant resist double pie & double mash with plenty of liquar -
this used to be a cheap wholesome meal! Eek
You sure you know what's in the pies?
H
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Stephen Tate
quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:
quote:
When i visit home, i cant resist double pie & double mash with plenty of liquar -
this used to be a cheap wholesome meal! Eek
You sure you know what's in the pies?
H
pies at pie mash shops are homemade to my knowlege, consisting of mincemeat and onion made and baked in house.
regards
Posted on: 17 January 2006 by Andrew Randle
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
iDunno I refuse to called a racist. it is fine for everyone to say english food is shit is it not?
The simple fact is in general chinese take aways are shit and the quality of food is shit, and the slur is on the dumb ass English like myself who choose to continue purchasing some of the following products on a weekly basis:
Deep fried chicken or prawn balls, 98% funny fluffy doug stuff.
Sweet and sour XXX, A poor quality sauce, which keeps getting bought because of the English penchance for sweet things.
Chinese Curry. Mostly large pieces of onions in gravy.
Crispy Duck. Too right its a week old.
Spring Roll. Out of the freezer, very very greasy.
Suspicisouly tender grey beef anyone?
What about the sliced pork, always of a conform shape with the slightly red top?
iDunno let me leave you with one observation I made when living in Watford.
We had two chinese takeaways one to the right of us and one to the left. A van would pull up outside both. On the side of the Van was the company name and a statement 'Specialist Meat for the Chinese trade.'
Ponder that one for a while.
FWIW I have had a lot more luck with Indian food, I rate it highly none the least of which because you actually have to chew the meat in the food.
Let's have a look at each of these:
>Deep fried chicken or prawn balls, 98% funny fluffy doug stuff.
Dog, dough or Doug Graham?
>Sweet and sour XXX, A poor quality sauce, which keeps getting bought because of the English penchance for sweet things.
Funnily enough, the Chinese like sweet things too. Including their fantastic pastries they do. Again, quality is dependent upon the establishment.
>Chinese Curry. Mostly large pieces of onions in gravy.
Whoever goes to a Chinese place and orders chips and curry needs some cultural re-adjustment.
>Crispy Duck. Too right its a week old.
Depends on the establishment too. The good ones take a whole newly roast duck and cut it up in front of you.
>Spring Roll. Out of the freezer, very very greasy.
The Chinese laugh at us Westerners who order spring rolls and prawn crackers. Made by Chinese for Western taste.
>Suspicisouly tender grey beef anyone?
You really ought to be more selective about where you eat. Although they do say that chefs tend to be less choosey about the food they eat themselves, or is that a gross generalisation?
>What about the sliced pork, always of a conform shape with the slightly red top?
Do you mean char-sui pork?
Andrew
