biamp without snaxo, is this possible?
Posted by: ys on 24 February 2004
someone suggested that I can use an extra power amp, by connecting the extra amp to the FC II's second socket(suppose to be used for mono blocks like 135) is this possible? anyone tried?
the connection should be:
112-->FC II---->2 x 150
the connection should be:
112-->FC II---->2 x 150
Posted on: 24 February 2004 by Noel
Ys,
It works with a hi-cap. I have 2 power amps running all the time. I believe it should be the same with a FC. If both sockets run both channels it will work. You can test this by swapping your 150 from one socket to the other.
Noel.
It works with a hi-cap. I have 2 power amps running all the time. I believe it should be the same with a FC. If both sockets run both channels it will work. You can test this by swapping your 150 from one socket to the other.
Noel.
Posted on: 28 February 2004 by ys
noel,
thanks for your reply!
that's a interesting news, my only concern is that if the timing between the two amps could be matched, is this an obvious improvement from one amp to two amps? what is the catch?(except the money for another amp and cable)
thanks for your reply!
that's a interesting news, my only concern is that if the timing between the two amps could be matched, is this an obvious improvement from one amp to two amps? what is the catch?(except the money for another amp and cable)
Posted on: 28 February 2004 by Manu
No problems, you can do it with your FC2 (you can even triamp, but..)
The result varies with speakers. It is generally an improvment. But IMO, a 200 is better than 2*150.
Emmanuel
Euphonie
All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
The result varies with speakers. It is generally an improvment. But IMO, a 200 is better than 2*150.
Emmanuel
Euphonie
All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
Posted on: 28 February 2004 by ys
thanks manu and james, maybe I will borrow my friends' amps to test and see whether a 200 or a pair of 150 sounds good in my system.....I hope one 200 will do the job cos a 200 is cheaper than I add an extra 150....
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by prowla
What's the point of bi-amping without going active?
Paul Rowlands
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by Laurie Saunders
quote:
I found that with two power amps in tow, the magical talents of Naim viz timing, coherence, intelligibility, went south, but round earth attributes like slam, weight, etc. became more obvious.
my experience precisely
quote:
It is generally an improvment.
imo, some things improve, though many more deteriorate
quote:
What's the point of bi-amping without going active?
quite
IMHO, unless active operation is on the agenda, then a (single) bigger amp give better results for the money
Laurie S
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by Manu
I agree with you guys, I said:
"It is generally an improvment. But IMO, a 200 is better than 2*150."
IMO, this can be generalized to any Naim amps. 1 amp betters 2 lesser in passive setup.
Emmanuel
Euphonie
All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
"It is generally an improvment. But IMO, a 200 is better than 2*150."
IMO, this can be generalized to any Naim amps. 1 amp betters 2 lesser in passive setup.
Emmanuel
Euphonie
All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by ChrisM
Chaps,
I have recently biamped two 250's with great success. I have tried wiring them as 125 (ie only one channel on the 250 used) and wiring them so one amp does trebble and one does bass (my speakers are two way).
My findings are that biamping does improve the sound over one simgle amp. Although the loudness does not change, the powerof drums / bass etc is noticeably increased. Detail is also increased as is the overall presentation (presence improved).
I have gone for one amp doing trebble one doing bass as I found I enjoyed this set up more. It also lends itself to an upgrade to active when funds allow.
When I initially tried the preferred setup I had trouble with the cable orientation. I then discovered that one of my 250's is wired wrongly. Instead of channel 1 doing left speaker it infact did right. Once I swapped the cables over the disjointed sound was solved.
I also tried the 125 setup with biwires as my speakers allow this. The sound improved over one sinle cable.
Hope this helps.
Regards
I have recently biamped two 250's with great success. I have tried wiring them as 125 (ie only one channel on the 250 used) and wiring them so one amp does trebble and one does bass (my speakers are two way).
My findings are that biamping does improve the sound over one simgle amp. Although the loudness does not change, the powerof drums / bass etc is noticeably increased. Detail is also increased as is the overall presentation (presence improved).
I have gone for one amp doing trebble one doing bass as I found I enjoyed this set up more. It also lends itself to an upgrade to active when funds allow.
When I initially tried the preferred setup I had trouble with the cable orientation. I then discovered that one of my 250's is wired wrongly. Instead of channel 1 doing left speaker it infact did right. Once I swapped the cables over the disjointed sound was solved.
I also tried the 125 setup with biwires as my speakers allow this. The sound improved over one sinle cable.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Posted on: 29 February 2004 by Mr.Tibbs
I've dabbled with this in the past, using a pair of 110's. The result was initially impressive, but soon showed up some flaws compared to using just one 110. The answer was to convert the 110's to mono operation - this really was an all gain no pain move.(As James will find out very soon) 
Mr Tibbs
Mr Tibbs
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by ys
Mr. Tibbs,
how to convert the stereo 110 into a mono amp? please tell us more
how to convert the stereo 110 into a mono amp? please tell us more
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by ChrisM
James,
Only you can decide if equipment upgrades are good or bad in your system (its clear that we all hear things differently). To my ears the 250 biamp setup give greater enjoyment than one. I feel that the sound is a bit nearer to a live performance sound (which I am trying to reproduce).
The biamp setup allows more of my CDS / 52 front end to shine through.
Regards
Chris
Only you can decide if equipment upgrades are good or bad in your system (its clear that we all hear things differently). To my ears the 250 biamp setup give greater enjoyment than one. I feel that the sound is a bit nearer to a live performance sound (which I am trying to reproduce).
The biamp setup allows more of my CDS / 52 front end to shine through.
Regards
Chris