Where's your knob (volume)!!

The 112 has a programmable volume control so you can have it where want it.

I have mine set to the 12 O'clock position for both phono and CD.

Steve B

I have a Nait1 driving Kans via NACA4. With the LP12 it's 10 o'clock if the missus is in, or 1 o'clock if she is out. With the CDP, it's as low as 9 o'clock if she is in, and between 11 and 12 o'clock when she's out.

I often listen to CD's with the volume level at arround 12 o/c but then again I am showing signs of deafness!!

Mekon,

I agree that listening volumes are slightly higher when the wife is out.

However, at 12 o'clock, whilst it makes conversation a tad difficult, it is by no means deafening. At 9 o'clock, the definition and involvement within the music is simply not there.

Steve D

Heh heh, aren't I lucky? I've got two, one for left and one for right - just the thing to service two feminine channels at the same time...!!!

...but like some cooker knobs, I only get a number in a static window - and I rarely get past 2 out of 13. Why 13 I don't know, but that's cooker knobs for you...

TC '..'
"Girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a Muffin..."

My power amp has a switch for low or high gain. It is on the low setting which means that 12 o'clock with most CDs is the upper limit. At this point its bloody loud though with 100wpc/8 ohms going into 92dB/w/m speakers in a small room.

My volume is usually set at around the 9:30 position.

Regards,

Steve.

It's just a pleasure to hear music as it was intended to be heard.

When I push my volume knob to 12 o'clock and beyond it gets very difficult to move. Is this intentional? Perhaps it should be because I already had the tweeters on my SBLs replaced once. The replacement improved the sound dramatically BTW.

Jeb

Hi steved,

The dial positions you mention sound right to me!!

The new naim 5 series stuff have the pentometer set this way. I think its something to do with simultanously feeding the left & right channels at the same level ie better balance...I think?!!
I only know this as I had a demo on some speakers & the dealer didn't have the same naim kit as I have so used a 5 series pre.

On my 82 it would be bloody dangerous to listen at the 12 o' clock position ...at least on most well recorded cd,s that is!!

Anyhow about those speakers of yours ....the PMC FB1's...I,m seriously looking at a pair of these to replace my well loved Epos es11/12's...please tell me what you think of them!

Cheers!

Mad Boy Matt

I can only get to 9 on vinyl, 10 is very loud on vinyl, CD's are rarely past 8, often only 7.

(CDX,82, LP12, SBL's)

That's in a 21' x 15' room

Mad Boy Matt,

Thanks for your confirmation about the volume position. It would appear that the 9 o'clock listening level applies to amps other than the 112.

Regarding your enquiry about the FB1's, I am really pleased with them. The Keilidhs were fine, and were renowned for their bass, but the FB1's are better across the whole spectrum. They suit the lounge both sonically and aesthetically (and therefore have a good wife acceptance factor).

The dealer made the same observation when I was demoing them at home. However, he said that another Naim customer had tried them, and they just didn't work in his house (though a particularly "difficult" room apparently). As always, the best advice is to demo them yourself first.

I also got a very good deal. The speaker cabinets (cherry) were from a batch which was lighter than the proper spec, and were therefore on offer, so I saved nearly £500 on the normal price of £1400.

Steve D

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Originally posted by steved:
Mekon,

I agree that listening volumes are slightly higher when the wife is out.

However, at 12 o'clock, whilst it makes conversation a tad difficult, it is by no means deafening. At 9 o'clock, the definition and involvement within the music is simply not there.

Steve D

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Yeah, I've tried telling her that. I wonder if sensitivity to volume is moderated by personality factors. I've a hunch that the introversion/extroversion dimension of the Five Factor Model of personality would be predictive of it.

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The max I ever have it is 10 o'clock and that's deafening (treble gets too ragged at this point). Normal listening is around 8 due to living in a semi

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The volume level on my system is usualy around the 1pm postion, which is quite nice to live with and sound is at a pleasantly high but not at a fatiguing level

Kind Regards David

Well Balanced Beings Promote Harmony In Music and Soul

imho, adjusting the volume is a pain in the a.. with early Nait's.)
I hardly ever set my volume knob higher than 8 o' clock. Every millimeter I turn (or point at it with my finger ) makes the volume rase like hell or if I turn the volume slightly lower than 8 o' clock, I get the well known channel inbalance problem, which is quite common with the Nait2. But.... I had a Nait-3R for a few months. It didn't have the channel-inbalance problems at low listening levels, but adjusting the volume using the rc wasn't that great either.
(Cyrus is much better in this area,imho)

So, with my CD(X) only system the volume hardly ever goes above 8' o clock.

Greetings,
Alco

Surly the volume is also dependent on input voltage and speaker efficiency. Naim CD players are (probably) all the same output, but with vinyl the cartridge varies from make to make.
I use a dynavector high output moving coil BUT compared to a lot of M/Magnets it is quite low output, combine this with Kans and I listen with knob between 11 and 2.
I also have a pair of Heybrook HB1s in the loft and when hooked up the knob has to go much lower for similar volume.
Who cares what the knob position is as long as you are enjoying yourself?
John.

PS. to the person who’s knob goes stiff around 12 o’clock, I don’t think this is meant to happen but sometimes it happens to me in the mornings

Strange, my maximum volume is also 8-9. The usual listening range is 5-7.

My room is a 4-8m concrete apartment with a tile floor.

The system is cdx/42.5/250/briks. Zero volume is at 4 0clock.

With my ELAs I would listem a bit louder, say 9-10 max but the briks get extremely loud quickly.

Only at parties, with 30 odd people in the room, do I get to crank it up beyond 9 oclock. Must be the room dampening.

Gus

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That's what I thought also John, but... to my surprise, it didn't make any difference at all!
I have Kans, but I also had MA Studio-2's and some (91db)AudioNote's on the end of my Nait-2.
The volume never went higher than 8 (9 max.) with all three speakers.

regards,
Alco

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Anyhow about those speakers of yours ....the PMC FB1's...I,m seriously looking at a pair of these to replace my well loved Epos es11/12's...please tell me what you think of them!

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FB1s tried with CDX/82/Hi/250

For: Well-extended, punchy and controlled bass. Natural and organic tonal balance.

Against: Inarticulate and slow in the midband. PR&T-less if not gutless.

Regards,

Steve.

It's just a pleasure to hear music as it was intended to be heard.

mine is ard 2-3 o'clock

Wayne

My maximum volume is 9 with CD5/Nait2/Naca5/Intro2.
My ex Epos 12 was really hungry in order to Intros. Even such a small speaker was a hot potato for Nait2. Intro2 even with Nait2 on 10'o clock is a truly disco performance, so loud that I can't stand it on some cds. By the way - I was believer that Epos is so good speakers and that work well with Naim, when I was buy Intros two weeks ago, they was several class beter than Epos and Epos sounds like crap in order to Intros. Intros are so effective speakers.

Ozren

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[QUOTE]Anyhow about those speakers of yours ....the PMC FB1's...I,m seriously looking at a pair of these to replace my well loved Epos es11/12's...please tell me what you think of them!

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_ FB1s tried with CDX/82/Hi/250 _

For: Well-extended, punchy and controlled bass. Natural and organic tonal balance.

Against: Inarticulate and slow in the midband. PR&T-less if not gutless.



been there/done that

He's right y'know. FB1s do many things well...pity carrying a tune isn't one of them