Ive made the HARD CHOICE

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speakers to go for with a budget of around £1200?

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what has your dealer recommended? Have a listen to Naim, Royd, Neat, Rega, Epos- The speakers from these companies in your price band all all excellent, just different. Should be something there you'll like.

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I also dont like the support feet of the cdx as it slides all over the place and I really dont want to use a stand?

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What are you doing now that make the CDX slide around? Those metal feet are part of its design, so it best to leave them alone.
However some here may recommend Nordost Pulsar Points.

Good luck and enjoy!

If you're anything like me, I suspect you'll be burning your credit card right now...
Don't forget to let us know how you get on with speakers.

[This message was edited by Mike Sae on TUESDAY 06 November 2001 at 15:21.]

It's always a nice day for it Have a good one!
Steve.
It's good to get back to normal.

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on TUESDAY 06 November 2001 at 15:53.]

I suggest nordest points for the CDX as well, they not only look good but stop all that there movement. Seems to make the sound go deeper as well, but that may be placebo as they cost 50 quid you would want an improvement eh?

Alex

Another alternative would be the Dynaudio Audience 72 (£1100). Tall floorstander with a lot of presence and big sound.

Regards,
Frank.
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TC '..'
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I spent a lot of time last summer listening to every monitor I rated and like you ended up liking the 1SC the best. If you want lots of bass it is not the speaker for you, but it does make music. Only problem, did I hear a rumour that Target have gone bust. If so that could be problematic as the Target stands were a very happy match for the 1SC's. BTW filling stands with sand makes a big difference.

David

The 1.8's need a big room to work or the bass takes over, the 1.3's are good but the bass driver is apparantly again a bit over powerful - its the same one from the 1.8's but in a much smaller box.

My personal favourites are the 1.1's and with some decent stands (Dynaudio Masterstands should work well enough...) you will be well under your budget. They may look small..but don't be put off by the size they are amazing and drop down low, yet never lose their punchiness.

Scott

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Steve.
It's good to get back to normal.

I have the same electronics as you, excellent chioce, it seems to be the year of the CDX (so many people buying them). This setup has caused much marital angst in our house, as my missus & I fight over who gets to choose the next CD to go on the CDX, but as our musical tastes overlap so much there's rarely any problem. The other week my sister & neices came to stay. The eldest brought a selection of CDs, telling me that she could always hear them at their best at our house.

As for installing glass for the CDX support, it's worth trying (make sure it's strengthened though!), as it's so cheap, and your CDX is currently sitting directly on a solid bookcase - *not* optimal. Place the glass on 4X ball bearings which sit on suitable size nuts ((TM) Vuk). Make sure the CDX is level. I have no space for a dedicated stand in my little shack, so I have cobbled together an MDF support with adjustable spikes that is positioned below the glass (on a fitted shelf), this allows me to level everything and gives extra isolation.

Hope this makes sense,

Will.

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Only problem, did I hear a rumour that Target have gone bust

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Yes, Target have gone bust. But, many of their products are still available, as they had a fair amount of parts stock.

For example, just a few weeks ago got a set of the Target stands that ProAc recommend for my old Super Tablette speakers - hell of an improvement, too!

Also, the Target product range has been bought by an engineering company called Sonus (not Faber!). They're not making all the Target items yet, they are in the process of ramping up production as demand warrants.

I can probably get contact telephone numbers for both the old stock and Sonus if folks are interested.

Chris L

It's always a nice day for it Have a good one!
Steve.
It's good to get back to normal.

If you want a floorstander, try the Audience 62, 72 or 82. If you hunt around (Audio Excellence have them) you can even get the older Audience 60 and 70's, which IMHO are almost as good, but cost a whole load less...

If you have more cash to spend try the Contour series, either the 1.3 or 1.8's, both stunning speakers...but as I said my faves are the 1.1's, they look little but sound really big.

I have never been a fan of B&W speakers, so I cannot advocate enough how much you should listen to the Dyn's. You will not be disappointed...

Scott

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Originally posted by naimless!:
Hi all! again! Naim just seems to be so forward...I need the volume at 9 o'clock just to drive the bass properly...sometimes higher but the mid and treble just pierce me ear drums...okay at weekend when you've had a few beers and fancy a rock-out but really for an engaging listen the system is not giving me what I need. I'm now on B&W 9nt £1800 worth of speaker! and I'm still unhappy! I want that dynamic effect, with solid punch. I get all the clarity I require, but i just can't seem to get serious low end, kidney vibrating, RUMBLE. Surely my Cdx,102,180,PSC should be working wonders by now? ps. does the Pcs power the cdx or the pre-amp as I have it just now? thanx Pedro

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Do you have just the CDX plugged into the pre-amp? If you've got anything else, unplug the cables from the back of the pre & try it again.

However, back at the top you said

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I also dont like the support feet of the cdx as it slides all over the place and I really dont want to use a stand

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and I suspect you'll continue to rant about how bad every speaker is until you recant and do something about this issue, even if it's just a Base01 platform or something under the CDX.

cheers, Martin

I am also on the CDX/102/180 combination. When it was initially installed it was harsh, this improved but it takes quite a long time, suggest it want be at it's best until it has been on and in use for 2-3 months, maybe more, the harshness really does diminish. You might also want to look at mains quality, I haven't got a dedicated spur and sometimes the system is really on song (last night) and sometimes seems relatively harsh and dull. Need to get the NAPSC and hicap, maybe XPS too...

Napsc should be plugged into the back of the pre-amp, it powers the digital circuitry.

CDX really is support sensitive, it must be level, get the spirit level out. You may find putting it on glass makes it seem brighter, you could try a seperate isolated layer of mdf instead, this is a cheap upgrade.

I am running BW804, bit over your budget. Think you will find that speakers are something that really does come down to personal preference, so listen to lots.

cheers

Matthew

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Originally posted by tof2001:
Scott,

are there dedicated stands for dynaudio (1.1 or 1.3)?

Jean-Christophe

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Yes...and no....

Dynaudio do make their own stands, IIRC, they are called the Masterstands (made by Target), unfortunately the 1.1 is too small for the stand and doesn't sit properly on the top, the 1.3 however sits perfectly..

I have no idea where you could get some from in "Eure-zone" however Audio Excellence in Worcester have a pair...and they may be willing to ship them over...goto www.audio-excellence.co.uk and drop them an e-mail, they will be able to say yes or no to shipping them, but possibly recommend some altermatives.

Scott

A 250 might also have a tonal balance more to your liking than the 180.

Speakers also take time to break in--the suspension on the cones loosens and the sound opens up, esp. in the bass. Don't buy any speakers for two months.

Make sure you leave the equipment on all the time. Use the Naim cables. Don't biwire the B&Ws.

--Eric