What's this?
Posted by: Carl Leermakers on 17 February 2004
A Naim mains distribution box? (probably not the correct English word sorry
)
(e-bay listing http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3272677615&category=22058
Or is it a mains distribution box with piece of paper on Naim letterhead conveniently placed behind it?
Does the thing exist? Is it Naim? Is it good???
(e-bay listing http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3272677615&category=22058
Or is it a mains distribution box with piece of paper on Naim letterhead conveniently placed behind it?
Does the thing exist? Is it Naim? Is it good???
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Thomas K
Carl, it's not a Naim product -- it's made by music line, the German distributor. If memory serves me right, it doesn't have any screw connections on the inside (to minimize insertion loss).
It's good, but not as good as the POWERIGEL ;-)
Thomas
It's good, but not as good as the POWERIGEL ;-)
Thomas
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Alco
Hi Carl,
It does excist and got a rave review in a German HiFi magazine.
I ordered exactly the same Naim 'mainsblock' (as it's discribed at Phonologic, the Dutch Naim distributor)about two months ago for 45,- euro, from a Dutch Naim dealer.
All I can say is that it is an improvement over my old El Cheap 'Gamma' mainsblock, I used for (too) many years.
(which costed about 2,- euro)
My amp and CDP sound at their best when connecter right into the wallsocket.
When using the Naim mainsblock in between I didn't hear any loss in soundquality, which I take as a compilement.
When using the old el cheapo block again, the soundstage is not as open/transparent, and it's less detailed.
As if their's a thin curtain hanging in front of the speakers.
regards,
Alco
It does excist and got a rave review in a German HiFi magazine.
I ordered exactly the same Naim 'mainsblock' (as it's discribed at Phonologic, the Dutch Naim distributor)about two months ago for 45,- euro, from a Dutch Naim dealer.
All I can say is that it is an improvement over my old El Cheap 'Gamma' mainsblock, I used for (too) many years.
(which costed about 2,- euro)
My amp and CDP sound at their best when connecter right into the wallsocket.
When using the Naim mainsblock in between I didn't hear any loss in soundquality, which I take as a compilement.
When using the old el cheapo block again, the soundstage is not as open/transparent, and it's less detailed.
As if their's a thin curtain hanging in front of the speakers.
regards,
Alco
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by garyi
I would imagine at most this is a naim approved power supply.
Naim do Hydra which is in effect X number of wires spliced together which is not that picture.
Suffice to say I am sure we would have all heard more on it if it was coming out of the naim factory.
Naim do Hydra which is in effect X number of wires spliced together which is not that picture.
Suffice to say I am sure we would have all heard more on it if it was coming out of the naim factory.
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Emil F
It's working better than other power blocks, which are 5 times its price. The cable is a naim power cord.
I did not test a music works power block.
Emil
I did not test a music works power block.
Emil
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Carl Leermakers
Thanks all for the replies. Thomas, Thanks for the info (and BTW your 52 is doing great with its new adoptive parents), but could you tell me what a Powerigel is? Also from Music Line?
Alco, I'm also using a 2 EUR 'Gamma' block (on a +/-1950 electrical installation - rented house, as usual
) and it's good to know I could get such a thing for 45 EUR from a Phonologic dealer (same one distributing here, south of the Moerdijk).
It also says something about "eBay craziness" because the auction just ended at ... 45.50 EUR (+ 7.5 EUR postage...).
Alco, I'm also using a 2 EUR 'Gamma' block (on a +/-1950 electrical installation - rented house, as usual
It also says something about "eBay craziness" because the auction just ended at ... 45.50 EUR (+ 7.5 EUR postage...).
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Thomas K
BTW your 52 is doing great with its new adoptive parents
Excellent, good to hear that. I had the 282 for two weeks, and while it bettered the 52 in many respects it wasn't as involving and as transparent as the 52 sound I was used to, so I bit the bullet and got a 252.
The 252 is sounding quite excellent and contrary to what some have reported, it boogies just as much as (if not more than) the 52, with a number of added, very delectable attributes.
could you tell me what a Powerigel is? Also from Music Line?
Yes, it's this thing. I think the Brits refer to this type of distributor as a hydra. Improved *every* aspect of my system's performance.
Thomas
Excellent, good to hear that. I had the 282 for two weeks, and while it bettered the 52 in many respects it wasn't as involving and as transparent as the 52 sound I was used to, so I bit the bullet and got a 252.
The 252 is sounding quite excellent and contrary to what some have reported, it boogies just as much as (if not more than) the 52, with a number of added, very delectable attributes.
could you tell me what a Powerigel is? Also from Music Line?
Yes, it's this thing. I think the Brits refer to this type of distributor as a hydra. Improved *every* aspect of my system's performance.
Thomas
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by MarkEJ
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Naim do Hydra which is in effect X number of wires spliced together which is not that picture.
Um (cough) -- actually I think Grahams' do Hydrae -- and very effective they are too, IMHO. Using actual Naim mains cables, you lose nothing, and they have the distinct advantage of being physically small, so in a suspended floor situation you can get most of them under the floorboards which makes quite a big difference to overall practicality. You couldn't do that with the "hedgehog", which looks a bit Roy Gregory to me...
Best;
Mark
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Carl Leermakers
would a Hydra or the German hedgehog still make sense if one is building a house which will have a dedicated mains spur and twelve wall sockets (six used for equipment and six used to cure possible future attacks of upgraditis
)?
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by MarkEJ
Yes, I would think either of them would potentially be an improvement, because they would both eliminate large number of plug pin/socket interfaces. The Hydra is the low-risk option, as it uses Naim mains cable. About UKP90 for a six-way, IIRC. If you start with a smaler one and later upgrade, Grahams' can be persuaded to swap it for the difference in price (according to rumour!)
Best;
Mark
Best;
Mark
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Carl Leermakers
Thanks Mark,
I'll contact Grahams to see if they also make the Hydra with plugs for normal human beings - you know, those who count in meters, eat edible food and have mains plugs which correspond to an international standard
(but who nevertheless remain grateful to the stubborn inhabitants of a certain island ... for having invented Proper HiFi in the first place!).
I'll contact Grahams to see if they also make the Hydra with plugs for normal human beings - you know, those who count in meters, eat edible food and have mains plugs which correspond to an international standard
Posted on: 20 February 2004 by Carl Leermakers
quote:
If you start with a smaler one and later upgrade, Grahams' can be persuaded to swap it for the difference in price (according to rumour!)
Just called Grahams (and yes they do supply it with 'continental' plugs). It's preferable to have the Hydra with as many outputs as the exact number of Naim items requiring power you have, which is why as Mark mentions you may need to upgrade it sometimes (whenever you add a Naim item). They won't reimburse 100% of the original price though, more like 60% (or perhaps I wasn't persuasive enough
Regards,
Carl