Naim Haters, whats their problem?
Posted by: Whizzkid on 18 April 2006
Hi all
Looking at some other forums - I never knew that there were so many haters of the Naim brand. It gets quite vicious a times.
Having just sold my Cd5i and Nait5i of 18months. I now have a CDx,102,180 with the CDx the most recent arrival. I am baffled by the animosity of these people, some who say that they used to be regular contributors to this Forum.
The only time I've seen debates like this are the Linux, Mac, Windows free for all's on computer Forums.
Because being new to HiFi forums i don't know if is this subject has been done to death. But was wondering why a company that makes products that you can or cannot buy with your own free will, create such high stress problems, that people feel the need to vent this stress with such voracity.
It seems such a much more tempered place here (which seems to get their goat as well).Any comments.
By the way I've had the Cdx for about a week now and its starting to sound superb.
Whizzzzz
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by Claus
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Originally posted by Steve S1:
Whizzkid said:
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Naim Haters, whats their problem?
You could try asking them, but they probably won't be able to hear you
Steve, Great!
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Milo Tweenie
Don't know what all the fuss is about; I love my Linn
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by Whizzkid:
I never knew that there were so many haters of the Naim brand.
A lot of them spend barrels of money for no results.
I knew dealers who hate Naim as well and this only because they can't sell air for solid gold.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by full ahead
I used to be a complete linnie (only for a short time),now there was hate.You dont get hate like that nowadays.
George
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
I think that people forgot the first meaning of a stereo set up: music.
I've seen a lot of people arguin' about the best gear etc etc
I love Naim and i love music.
I've never made a "watt macho" matter of it and everytime i do see or read about this kind of approach i feel my stomach goin' upside down.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Chillkram
Again I agree with you Gianluigi.
I don't understand why there has to be such polarity in hi-fi. People should just enjoy the music on whatever system best presents it for them and not worry about what everyone else is doing.
Regards
Mark
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Is the thin line between listening to music and listening to gears.
But i'm not gonna tell them anymore.
On italian forums this become a waste of time.
Posted on: 21 April 2006 by Chillkram
I'm sure it's the same everywhere!
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Chris West
Basically, some people just love to hate...and probably should be left to stew in their own juice (forum?).
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by Chris West NANA:
Basically, some people just love to hate...and probably should be left to stew in their own juice (forum?).
Yep.
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Whizzkid
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
Is the thin line between listening to music and listening to gears.
Funnilly enough, when i bought my CDx, the guy that was selling it works at a dealer in Wigan. One night we were just conferring about payment and the like when we got on to the subject of the Naim sound, when he said that over the years that he has been selling HiFi he's come to the exact conclusion that some people listen to the music and others to the HiFi. And after reading some of the posts here and on other forums i'm starting to realize what he means.
But that still does not mean you can viciously criticize people for standing on one side of the line or the other. I bit of understanding is needing here from both camps.
Whizzzz (diplomat in waiting!).
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by Whizzkid:
.....that still does not mean you can viciously criticize people for standing on one side of the line or the other. I bit of understanding is needing here from both camps.
I don't criticize at all dear Whizz!
I simply took and went away.
I did realize that when writing on italian audio forums people did not even replied.
So....no problems.
I listen to music when others listen to .....cables?
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Whizzkid
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
I don't criticize at all dear Whizz!
Sorry Gianluigi, I meant the last comments as we should not criticize not you personally. I'm not hear to start an argument.
I listen to music when others listen to .....cables?
I once spent a week going nuts trying an assortment of cables. It was murder my brain was going they must be better they're expensive. But i couldn't get away from the fact that the sucked the life out of the music. Which is a no-no in my book.
Whizz
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by kuma
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But i couldn't get away from the fact that the sucked the life out of the music. Which is a no-no in my book.
Consider yourself lucky.
I've spent god awful amount of money to realise that.
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Whizzkid
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Originally posted by kuma:
I've spent god awful amount of money to realise that.
AH! the price of a good dealer, worth its weight in cables.
sorry to hear that tho Kuma.
whizz
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by kuma
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sorry to hear that tho Kuma.
No regrets.
The cost of education is always high.
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Chillkram
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Originally posted by Whizzkid:
One night we were just conferring about payment and the like when we got on to the subject of the Naim sound, when he said that over the years that he has been selling HiFi he's come to the exact conclusion that some people listen to the music and others to the HiFi.
I can honestly say that I have done both. In particular after an upgrade I listen to the equipment, or more particularly for a sign of an 'improvement' in the sound. I usually have to snap myself out of this and get back to listening to the music. This can sometimes extend to only selecting records that I know will sound 'good' on the system. Then I know I've lost it and I'll put on something that is a crap recording but great music. It usually brings me back to what's important.
Mark
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by Whizzkid:
Sorry Gianluigi, I meant the last comments as we should not criticize not you personally. I'm not hear to start an argument. Whizz
No problems Whizz!
I did get it.
As i wrote before i can't spend my time on things like cables.
3 reasons: few money to manage very carefully, so little time for music and no dealers around to get cables in my system and test them.
Of course i do believe when you people here tell me that some cables work and work very good.
I do believe it.
But still i really think i must decide between records and pricey cables to fit my gears.
I only made a choice.
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Chillkram
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Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
But still i really think i must decide between records and pricey cables to fit my gears.
I only made a choice.
Good choice, Gianluigi.
Mark
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
The matter is that the closer dealer is about 110 klms from where i live and btw i've never found someone ready to let me bring cables home for tests.
In Italy you have to buy.
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by JonR
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Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
In Italy you have to buy.
Well, this is what happens when they make the trains run on time.
Oops, err...sorry, wrong era..
Posted on: 22 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Wrong era even for hi-fi!
Maybe in a couple of centuries................
Posted on: 23 April 2006 by bhazen
I have enjoyed recorded music more since I got Naim hifi.
Cheers
Bruce
Posted on: 23 April 2006 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Me too.
But i feel the peace now.
Posted on: 23 April 2006 by Chillkram
Don't you ever sleep, Gianluigi?
Mark
