(UK) Why does Supermarket Wine always tastes awful?

Posted by: naim_nymph on 19 November 2009

Twenty five years ago I read a story in a newspaper (The Telegraph I think) about wine producers/exporters in Europe who believed that us Brits were so useless at appreciating a good wine they could send us any old crap in a bottle with a fancy château-de-plonk looking label on it, and UK wine drinkers would buy and drink it quite happily without knowing they're getting ripped off.

If you ask me it's true, and nothing much has changed except now it’s the whole world that sends us all their horrid wine that no one else would be daft enough to drink.

A few years ago I used to cat-sit at a friends house while they holidayed in France. They were nice kind folk who would always come back home to give me a few bottles of Red for my loyal efforts of looking after their cat, which was always a pleasure.
However, the wine they gave me was always duty-free from France, and it always tasted superb, I never wasted a drop. This wine often came with the same recognisable labels on that one could buy here in Blighty, but whenever I did purchase from the local supermarket it would not taste anywhere near as nice as the wine they purchased in France, and often the local supermarket wine tasted so yuk i would pour it away down my kitchen sink plug hole.

I usually buy a bottle of wine that costs between £4 - £9, occasionally cheaper or dearer.
I’ve tried French, Italian, Spanish, Chilean, Californian, Argentinean, Australian, New Zealand, South African, and probably others I can’t remember right now.

But i’m always very disappointed : (

Nowadays the only wine I can drink without wincing is the Australian Hardys Merlot that costs about a fiver. But even this wine isn’t really that good.

How much (here in the UK) does a 'nice' bottle of Red cost?

Does one have to travel to another country to buy it?

Any recommendations would be very helpful please! : )

Debs
Posted on: 16 January 2010 by BigH47
We just had an '07 Beyerskloof Pinotage Reserve.From Majestic.
A wee bit disappointed in this, quite tart, (thick) my son said. I think we made the mistake of drinking it with to-nights curry take away.
It's better after a mouth wash out with water, nice fruity nose good in the mouth but a touch acidy on the way down.
Our "normal" Beyerskloof would be preferred, I think.
Posted on: 16 January 2010 by Don Atkinson
quote:
I think we made the mistake of drinking it with to-nights curry take away.

definitely. you need Kingfisher beer or similar.

I have been alternating between Fleurie £7 and Casillero del Diablo £5 (Chilie) both from Waitrose. 2 or 3 of each over the last few weeks and not a bad bottle at all. But i keep them for the lasngnia, stew, ham, roast beef, sausages and chops. Oh, and cheese on toast.

Cheers

Don
Posted on: 16 January 2010 by Chillkram
quote:
Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
But i keep them for the lasngnia, stew, ham, roast beef, sausages and chops. Oh, and cheese on toast.


Not with the cornflakes then, Don?
Posted on: 16 January 2010 by BigH47
Yeah the beer would have been a better choice today.
Posted on: 01 March 2010 by Christopher_M
More than acceptable supermarket wine chez nous tonight. La Piuma, a Montepulciano, and at a great price.

Cheers, Chris
Posted on: 02 March 2010 by naim_nymph
Château Malbat Bordeaux 2006 | Bin CR05406

Style: Medium-bodied
Drinking Time: Now
Grape Varieties: 70% Merlot, 25% Cabernet Sauvignon, 5% Cab Franc

The Blurb...An excellent petit château from the south-east end of Bordeaux near Langon. This is the rural farming rather than 'grand châteaux' part of Bordeaux and the wine reflects this in its easy-going and soft fruit style.

This tasted undeniably horrid. Cheap bitter plonk with no body or soul, no fun at all.
But i persevered trying to justify the expense of it by actually drinking nearly half a bottle of this yuk before resolving to clean the kitchen sink waste with it.

(Someone in France is having a good laugh.)

~<>~

After the very disappointing Bordeaux, i opened another bottle of Concha y Toro Merlot from the 18 bottle order i received in January. This has well and truly settled now, and at room temp is very agreeable. So glad i've got a good supply! : )

Debs
Posted on: 03 March 2010 by rodwsmith
Always avoid cheap Bordeaux...

(On the other hand, we had a simply exquisite bottle of Evangile Pomerol 1989 last night that was very nearly worth its absurd price tag)

Interesting that in the UK, France has now slipped into third place as wine supplier behind Australia (longstanding) and South Africa (discounting and curency related I suspect). Somehow I don't think this can be a permanent development, but with the £ the way it is, Brits can look forward to an influx of Greek wine once the Drachma is recreated I reckon.

Pinotage always tastes of burnt rubber bands to me, even the really good ones.

For wine and curry, look to slake thirst with water and drink very fruity, juicy reds from the new World which have a hint of sugar left in them (jammy). Although to generalise a food group as broad as 'curry' is near useless. Alsace white wines are the best to go with Thai curries I find. Beer however, no matter how natural the combination seems, is not ideal as spicy food and fizzy liquids are not a good combination. Which is why Indians usually drink lassi. However the wine list in the average Taj Mahal-y Indian restaurant is usually so stuck in the nineteen-seventies with delights such as Mateus Rosé, Liebfraumilch and raffia-wrapped Chianti in bulb-shaped table-lamp-to-be bottles, that a cleansing ale is the only viable choice...
Posted on: 03 March 2010 by Svetty
Seems to me that Debs just doesn't like old world, savoury, overtly tannic reds, prefering new world, 'fruit-driven', ripe-tannin ones.

Nothing wrong with this of course but some of us still enjoy more 'traditional' wines over their 'modern' cousins.
Posted on: 04 March 2010 by naim_nymph
quote:
Originally posted by rodwsmith:
Always avoid cheap Bordeaux...


The 'Château Malbat' i didn't like was £6.70 ...for my budget, the taste was far cheaper than the price!

But never mind, more fun to come : )

Debs
Posted on: 04 March 2010 by naim_nymph
Diego de Almagro Reserva Valdepeñas, 2003 | Bin SR00903

Style: Medium-bodied
Drinking Time: Now
Grape Varieties: 100% Tempranillo

The Blurb... A mixture of spice, strawberry fruit and a dollop of vanilla on this mellow and mature Reserva from Valdepeñas. After two years in barrel it is supple to the taste, with complexity and length. A good wine for stews, casseroles and cheeses.

This is the last of my mixed red merlot sample group, and having lost faith in European offerings in this low price range i expected to struggle with this Spaniard...
But to my very pleasant surprise this was very enjoyable, very smooth to taste, slightly dry but nice to drink while cooking, no nasty after-taste either, just a fruity mellow delight that imho give the Concha y Toro a good run for it's money, although this Diego (at £7.80) is a couple of £ more expensive per bottle.
I notice it's presently 'out of stock', so obviously other people are liking this too! : )

Debs