Gilmour says McCartney is cheap
Posted by: garyi on 10 February 2004
In a newspaper today David Gilmour says he has so much money that he dosn't know what to do with it, hense why he gives millions each year to charity.
He also says that McCartney should do more for charity.
Do you agree?
He also says that McCartney should do more for charity.
Do you agree?
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by TomK
quote:
Originally posted by fred simon:
This would be corroborated by musician friends of mine who tour with Brian Wilson and have had quite a bit of contact with McCartney over the years ... they say he's the real deal and as sweet as can be.
Fred, do you mind if I ask who these friends are? I'm a big Brian Wilson fan and going to see him in Glasgow in a couple of weeks time. Last time he called his band "the best in the world" and I've no reason to disagree. They are simply magnificent. You're mixing with exalted company there!
Cheers.
Tom.
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Ross1
Greeny,
I agree. The only thing to doo presently is to shop around and try to buy CDs at discount.
I'll give you some examples of my frustration: I would like to buy All things must pass from G.Harrison but believe it or not the price is aound $35.; I like to buy the Concert for Georges with interesting cuts from McCartney, Clapton,.. but the price is not far from $30.
I'm a fan of the Beatles since 64; so I'm frustrated. And it's not true that because I'm a a long time fan I will buy everything from the Beatles at any price.
I agree. The only thing to doo presently is to shop around and try to buy CDs at discount.
I'll give you some examples of my frustration: I would like to buy All things must pass from G.Harrison but believe it or not the price is aound $35.; I like to buy the Concert for Georges with interesting cuts from McCartney, Clapton,.. but the price is not far from $30.
I'm a fan of the Beatles since 64; so I'm frustrated. And it's not true that because I'm a a long time fan I will buy everything from the Beatles at any price.
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by TomK:quote:
Originally posted by fred simon:
This would be corroborated by musician friends of mine who tour with Brian Wilson and have had quite a bit of contact with McCartney over the years ... they say he's the real deal and as sweet as can be.
Fred, do you mind if I ask who these friends are? I'm a big Brian Wilson fan and going to see him in Glasgow in a couple of weeks time. Last time he called his band "the best in the world" and I've no reason to disagree. They are simply magnificent. You're mixing with exalted company there!
Bassist Bob Lizik, drummer Jim Hines, and saxophonist Paul Mertens.
Lizik and Hines and I toured and recorded with violinist Jerry Goodman (The Flock, Mahavishnu Orchestra) in the late 80s, and Lizik was also a member my own touring and recording band for a number of years. Hines and I went to high-school together and have played together in many situations.
And, yes, these musicians are among the best in the world.
As an aside, and a shamelessly self-promoting one at that, I recorded a piano album of Brian Wilson songs, The Music of the Beach Boys, as a work-for-hire for a label that combined music with nature sounds; in this case, as one would expect, the piano was mixed with sounds of the ocean. While normally I don't go in for that kind of thing, I could listen to the ocean itself all day, and I have to say that this is one of the most successful marriages of music and environmental sounds I've heard; it makes actual musical sense ... after all, it is the Beach Boys. To turn Mark Twain's comment about Wagner upside down, it's better than it sounds.
I concentrated on mostly earlier songs such as The Warmth Of the Sun, Surfer Girl, In My Room, God Only Knows, and Caroline, No. Brian Wilson is one of the true songwriting geniuses of all time, and there is a bittersweet, melancholy tone to many of them that I chose to illuminate. The result kind of sounds like what one might imagine if Joni Mitchell played Brian's songs on the piano.
This is probably way more info than you needed.
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by TomK
Fred,
We are not worthy!
Are any of them interested in hi-fi? Any chance of getting some insight into Brian's Smile Tour on here?
We are not worthy!
Are any of them interested in hi-fi? Any chance of getting some insight into Brian's Smile Tour on here?
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Rasher
quote:
a work-for-hire for a label that combined music with nature sounds; in this case, as one would expect, the piano was mixed with sounds of the ocean. ... after all, it is the Beach Boys. .
Sorry to laugh Fred, but that is really funny..I nearly wet myself.
Posted on: 22 February 2004 by scottyhammer
in my opinion gilmores got more talent in hes nob
than sir p has got in hes whole sad body
than sir p has got in hes whole sad body
Posted on: 22 February 2004 by TomK
I think you'll find your opinion carries more weight once your writing age passes 7.
Posted on: 23 February 2004 by scottyhammer
your entitled to your opinion and me mine
Posted on: 23 February 2004 by greeny
I really do find it amazing that anyone with any grasp of modern music could describe PM as talentless.
No matter what you think of his music past and present, to call him talentless!!!
I don't particularly like Miles Davis, but I wouldn't dream of implying he didn't have talent.
No matter what you think of his music past and present, to call him talentless!!!
I don't particularly like Miles Davis, but I wouldn't dream of implying he didn't have talent.
Posted on: 24 February 2004 by scottyhammer
i didnt say hes talentless
he wouldnt have got where he is today without talent.
im just saying gilmore is god compared.
now that ive stirred a hornets nest i also think
the beatles and elvis
were overated.
but then thats my own opinion
thats what makes music the medium it is.
one mans meat and all that.
scotty
he wouldnt have got where he is today without talent.
im just saying gilmore is god compared.
now that ive stirred a hornets nest i also think
the beatles and elvis
were overated.
but then thats my own opinion
thats what makes music the medium it is.
one mans meat and all that.
scotty
Posted on: 24 February 2004 by matthewr
Fred,
"how much do you think artists should make?"
How about if your renumeration was guaranteed at 2001 rates pro-rata'd to take account of current demand/volumes and in return user's could have complete and unhindered access to any music they wanted for a flat fee of about $6/month?
Seem's fair to me. Here's how.
Matthew
"how much do you think artists should make?"
How about if your renumeration was guaranteed at 2001 rates pro-rata'd to take account of current demand/volumes and in return user's could have complete and unhindered access to any music they wanted for a flat fee of about $6/month?
Seem's fair to me. Here's how.
Matthew
Posted on: 24 February 2004 by fred simon
Interesting ideas, Matthew.
Remuneration based on a sample of usage is already implemented by BMI, which is an agency that licenses broadcast performance of music. And the problem there is that the less popular the artist, the less accurate the representation. The same would be true in Fisher's model.
But there is a whole other issue which is currently not being addressed, though it's possible that advancements in technology may someday do so. As os this writing, downloaded music is of significantly lesser sonic quality than that found on a commercially released CD. To be sure, the vast majority of users don't care, in fact, they probably can't even tell. But if this sort of business model becomes the new paradigm for music delivery, unless it becomes technologically feasible to deliver and receive full fidelity audio, it will be a giant step backward.
Remuneration based on a sample of usage is already implemented by BMI, which is an agency that licenses broadcast performance of music. And the problem there is that the less popular the artist, the less accurate the representation. The same would be true in Fisher's model.
But there is a whole other issue which is currently not being addressed, though it's possible that advancements in technology may someday do so. As os this writing, downloaded music is of significantly lesser sonic quality than that found on a commercially released CD. To be sure, the vast majority of users don't care, in fact, they probably can't even tell. But if this sort of business model becomes the new paradigm for music delivery, unless it becomes technologically feasible to deliver and receive full fidelity audio, it will be a giant step backward.