Centreless car wheels...

Posted by: AV@naim on 15 April 2006

As I sit here bouncing off the walls of the padded-cell in frustration....

....has anyone had problems getting centreless car wheels balanced properly?...
Posted on: 15 April 2006 by u5227470736789439
Sky-hooks? Fredrik
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by AV@naim
Some European cars have "centreless" alloys, i.e no centre hole...its filled in. There are four wheel nuts holes surrounding this. When you balance them, the balancing machine requires an adapter as you can't just slide the wheel on.

four new tyres were fitted and each time they were balanced, the whole car would vibrate violently at over 50mph. Most places sugested my wheels must be knackered!

After driving around most of Wiltshire, we found a garage that could do it properly, they explained there is a knack to doing them, as if you don't get the jig exaclty aligned, you get misalignment.

Whoever invented this set up should have his head examined...

Sorry, now calmed down...what a waste of a day though.
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by long-time-dead
Forgive my ignorance but what is a centreless car wheel ?
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by andy c
Bet they look nice, tho!
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by AV@naim
http://www.ukcar.com/road_tests/citroen/Saxo-vtr/citroen-saxo-vtr-alloy.jpg

Just an example on a Saxo VTR...
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by Derek Wright
Micheldever Tyres know how to handle centreless wheels as well as give one of the most compettitive prices.

Occasionally a fitter will by mistake use the wrong adapter plate to mount the wheels on the balancing machine.
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by Justyn
Some garages have the facility to balance the wheels while their still on the car using a powered machine (similar to those used to start GP bikes) to get the wheel spinning and a strobe light, simple and easy.
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by garyi
With the greatest of respect the wheel pictured very much does have a centre bit in it.
Posted on: 16 April 2006 by AV@naim
Ah yes good old Micheldever, just up the road(ish)

quote:
Originally posted by garyi

With the greatest of respect the wheel pictured very much does have a centre bit in it.


mmm..yes, but thats what I was told it was called. I think they mean centreless adapter on centre filled wheels..possibly?
Posted on: 17 April 2006 by DIL
quote:
http://www.ukcar.com/road_tests/citroen/Saxo-vtr/citroen-saxo-vtr-alloy.jpg

Just an example on a Saxo VTR...


Do the rusty wheel nuts come as standard Winker

/dl
Posted on: 17 April 2006 by AV@naim
it would appear so, its not mine tho...just sample photo.

Strangely, the annoying judder throughout car/wheel wobble is back....it was not there prior to the tyre change

I have:

a) had wheels balanced several times

b) swapped wheels front to back and also back to front after last balance.

c) checked tyre pressures and the weights are still attached

I am perplexed....its quite annoying cornering and driving on motorways at 70.

Anyone got any other ideas. Have mailed Micheldever to see if they can come up with something.

Could it be the tyres themselves? Pirelli P700-Z's
Posted on: 18 April 2006 by DIL
AV, can you remind us what sort of car you had;
if it is one of these

or one of these

it is probably a design fault in the car.

/dl
Posted on: 19 April 2006 by AV@naim
LOL!

We found the tyres to be eccentric....
Posted on: 19 April 2006 by Adam Meredith
quote:
Originally posted by AV@naim:
LOL!


Don't let me catch you using smilies.
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by AV@naim
Thanks Adam.... Big Grin

*does cheese salute*
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by Adam Meredith
quote:
Originally posted by AV@naim:
*does cheese salute*


The Cheese Lord acknowledges.
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by long-time-dead
Have you considered your suspension as the source of the problem ?

What type of car do you drive ?
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by long-time-dead
quote:
*does cheese salute*


Only if it's on the port side and devoid of an "E"
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by Adam Meredith
Excellent

Edam
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by AV@naim
Twas the tyres...

all eccentric. never heard of that before.

replacing them all with mini-babybel
Posted on: 20 April 2006 by Chillkram
quote:
Forgive my ignorance but what is a centreless car wheel ?


Obviously a wheel for a centreless car.