"Kind of Blue" So what?
Posted by: John C on 21 June 2001
John o
The music industry affects the economic position just as any large industry does, of course. I think it naive to say that music in the context of Northern Ireland is the cause of unrest - sectarian differences have nothing to do with music as I suspect you well know. Take away the music and the unrest would still be there and this is where I think Tony has it right in that music can reflect, document or comment upon social issues - the majority of it does not (Top of the Pops anyone?).
cheers
Nigel
It might only be a modifier to an existing situation, but that modification can be very significant.
Pete.
Pete.
By the way I was once at an ice hockey match where flying octopuses were the norm. The fans of the Detroit Redwings used to celebrate goals that way. Quite a sight, 40 or 50 octopi on the ice, as long as you didn't get hit with one.
Hockman. Intersting choice of favourites. John Zorn where would I start? Masada? I really like Dave Douglas.
Nigel. Get hip to the contapuntal man! Havent you read Camus, Kerouac. Get in touch with your inner self! I feel anger, frustration a bad vibe here. Let it go. Try Brotzmans"Machine Gun". Therapeutic.
By the way whats all this about pretension?
John
Grade E .. Music appreciation 101 (Naim board of examination). Dunces cap on
By the way if you've never heard the massed ranks of various Orange bands with a few Lambegs rattling out the Sash outside your front door at 7 in the morning before they go off to the field well.. its an interesting experience...I doubt DBLs come close anyway.
[This message was edited by John C on THURSDAY 28 June 2001 at 00:00.]
[This message was edited by John C on THURSDAY 28 June 2001 at 00:02.]
Easiest place for a jazz fan to start with Zorn is The Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet, Voodoo. This is Zorn's take on hardbop, demonstrating that anything the neoclassic young lions can do, he can do better. This is a little gem (with stunning sonics on the LP) if you can find it.
I also like the Masada series, especially the live albums. Live at Jerusalem and Sevilla are particularly fine (again with great sound), and the band plays its butt off. Modern jazz music played with jewish folklike tunes, with Ornette thrown in!
As for D Douglas, I am fond of his tribute albums to Wayne Shorter and Mary Lou Williams.
Hockman
Actually I like it but its the hissing in the backgrond that gets to me.
My all time fav sound is 'And you and I' by Yes, but again the hissing gets too me, I know it probably adds to the feel, but hey still annoying.
Heard on the news of a musicless march in Northern Ireland where violence still ensued - must not confuse the symbol with the cause or effect. And after only a few seconds thought.
cheers
Nigel
PS. It's fine by me if you don't like it.
You were right the first time
I didn't like KOB for ages. It was one of those albums that I thought I needed to own but when I played it I couldn't get into it.
Recently things have changed.....yes I love it.
Chris
2) Pete in Dundee - Abbey Road,
3) Chris Dolan - Revolver
In my opinion, these are the three best Beatles albums. I would pick Abbey Road side 2 (1969) as their best side.
Sgt Pepper's 'A Day in the life' in 1967, was for me their finest track ever - a daring experiment in those days - but it worked. Apart from that track, I wouldn't say Sgt Pepper was as good as everyone was saying at the time. Should mention one more track not on the above albums - 'I am the Walrus'. But, I can understand how younger people may not like the Beatles - they belonged to different era. Regards, Tim
Rubber Soul now gets my vote.
Chris
PS I'll probably change my mind again 
author is ashley somebody.
he mainly bases his book on listening to the ENTIRE session tapes. with lots of dialogue bettween those present
i wonder why the record company doesnt release this, with all the conversation. historical interest if not nothing else.
shahreza