critical listening session

No not his entire system, just the amps - and it was a despearate clutching-at-straws theory, and one I'd not seriously advocate myself if I'd got a 52/new 250 combination.

Self congratulatory?

No, not really. I think it's more about how people behave and react rather than any notion of how an individual is.

I don't believe that human behaviour is somehow fixed by any notion of how they are.

I suppose I'm fortunate that I've met my wife-to-be late-ish in my life and she gets me as part of a full package - me and my hi-fi, rather than her looking on anxiously at the prospect of an unfolding obsession and otherwise hitherto unseen "nerdery" during the usual stages of courtship, so to speak.

I'd be happy to comment, for example, on whether her shoes match her bag etc. in the same way that she can (using her comparitively youthful ears) tell me that x upgrade/tweak really works with her favourite tunes.

It's called real compromising and accepting each other's (possibly gender-based) foibles.

I'm glad that woody got to make his hi-fi sound better than it did before and not at the expense of his relationship with Mrs. woody. My own anecdotal stuff was used entirely to serve this purpose, and, in general I hope it may help others to improve their hi-fi without it being deleterious to their domestic/marital bliss.

I only mention her with this specific regard, and I ask you not to attempt to isolate what I say on the matter from this particular context.

My occupation and that of others who post here exists entirely out of the above context.

Remarks along the lines of: you reason in that way because you are a taxi driver/surgeon/accountant/journalist or whatever are just irritating distractions/deflections from the topic of discussion.

Regards,

Steve.

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on SUNDAY 02 November 2003 at 07:19.]

what I find concerning Steve is just how much emphasis you place on a few boxes.

"She gets me and my HIFI" is a bit concerning.

Its like the only other thing in your life is your Hifi, in which case its a bloody good job she came along, which I guess is what the thrust of your argument was.

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Originally posted by Steven Toy:
Self congratulatory? No, not really.[...]

I suppose I'm fortunate that I've met my wife-to-be late-ish in my life and she gets me as part of a full package - me and my hi-fi.

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Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word self-congratulatory?

Herman

Eck!

Steve and Herm,

Calm down calm down!

Steve, I'm happy for you - really I am - and I'm sure quite a few of us will watch with interest the tone of your posts change slightly when you get married and buy a house together. You may well find Mrs Toy will then start the process of questioning prioritising hifi stuff over other things (such as house, sofa, etc).

-- woody

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You may well find Mrs Toy will then start the process of questioning prioritising hifi stuff over other things (such as house, sofa, etc).

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If things change and speakers start getting pushed into corners etc, you'll be the first to know. We need a sofa to listen from, anyway.



Regards,

Steve.

Herman,

One does not congratulate oneself for good fortune. One is merely thankful.



Regards,

Steve.

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If things change and speakers start getting pushed into corners etc, you'll be the first to know. We need a sofa to listen from, anyway.

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I sincerely hope it doesn't happen to you. Good luck!

-- woody

Thanks woody.



Regards,

Steve.

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Originally posted by Steven Toy:
One does not congratulate oneself for good fortune. One is merely thankful.

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Another thing people don't do is talk about it day in day out in a public place. This has been comedy material since Roman times - the oaf going round & round on the village square boasting about what he's got (nobody's much impressed) - but I guess you're too full of it to see.

It's not about people denying you your happiness. It's about your droning on & on, as if having a girlfriend etc is like a televized touchdown on Mars (or rather Venus), plus your strange habit of advising other people how to conduct married life. You just cannot blame us for laughing when you're so funny.

Herman

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You just cannot blame us for laughing when you're so funny.

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The Naim forum pundit speaks.

As I've said before, my views regarding the living room being the battle ground for supremacy in the marital home - with the hi-fi being the first casualty, have been with me for a long time, back to when I was very single.

This thread got going with a number of posters sharing their experiences on this issue of supremacy and your hi-fi having to sound sh#t as a result.

I gave woody my honest opinions andas a result he seems quite happy. Thus my stating such opinions could be considered constructive.

You chose to stick your oar in and change the topic of the thread. The one who places the spotlight on my particular relationship out of the above context is you and only you, so drop the "us" and replace it with "me," because you speak on behalf of yourself only.

I am guilty of allowing myself to be wound up by you, but I play this role now that you can no longer bait Marco.

You are one sad mischievous little puppy, and you have contributed absolutely nothing of a constructive nature to this thread. In fact, every time I see that you've replied to a post of mine, my heart sinks because I'm faced with the dilemma of just ignoring you or not ignoring you

Just what percentage of your posts in the hi-fi corner are directly related to hi-fi, btw?

A: Not very many.

All my posts that mention my relationship are directly related to hi-fi.

Regards,

Steve.

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on MONDAY 03 November 2003 at 04:20.]

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Originally posted by Steven Toy:
I gave woody my honest opinions and as a result he seems quite happy.

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You're too modest, Steve.

Tom,

may I suggest "Actively encouraged in it all"?

Guys,

Could we leave the relationship stuff now please.

-- woody

bambam,

It was probably Top Cat. The person standing in the way of my Mana purchases was me.



Regards,

Steve.

Tom,

It would seem perfectly normal to me for women to actively encourage making your favourite tunes sound better - their ears are probably better and their appreciation of music is no different, subject to taste of course.

I don't feel superior in my choice of wife - that kind of misses the point. All wives can become hi-fi friendly if their husbands act like men and don't let their wives trample on them.

It's not about how you and/or your wife are it's more about how you choose to act.

It would seem that the hi-fi hobby attracts a lot of doormats, but they shouldn't dispair - doormat is what it does - lie on the floor and be trampled on, not what it is, a man who can choose to lie there or stand up for himself.



Regards,

Steve.

tiny little macho

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Originally posted by Steven Toy:
All wives can become hi-fi friendly if their husbands act like men and don't let their wives trample on them.

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Good lord, will this never end?

Does the entire forum have to go down on its knees and beg you to quit this embarrassing teenie-macho talk?

Herman

Ah, it's that forum pundit again.

I'm sure herm's had experience in these matters


Regards,

Steve.

I don't watch soap operas or reality TV, but this is a great alternative.

-- Ian

I'm confused- Toy, are you married? Do you live with your girl? I thought the answers do both were "no" and thus your comments on marital affairs and gender balance and all that hoo-haa carry no weight. Am I missing something?

Anyhow, I've found that my best critical listening occurs at night, with all the lights out and maybe a candle burning. My hearing's much more focused that way.

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Anyhow, I've found that my best critical listening occurs at night, with all the lights out and maybe a candle burning. My hearing's much more focused that way.

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I agree with the above.

I don't use candles though - I think they are fire risk, but low lighting from a table lamp is nice. There is a dimmer button on the Gizmo remote, but I'm not going to install a dimmer switch because they buzz like hell.

I have my own space in my parental home and she's here for half the week.



Regards,

Steve.

I stand corrected.

Lights out.

Oh, PS- Do you ever find in one of your dim-lit listening sessions that you set the volume at a moderate level, and a few tracks later you're thinking "that's too loud!!!"? My name is Ludwig, and I have this problem.

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Originally posted by Tom Alves:

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Originally posted by woody:
Guys,

Could we leave the relationship stuff now _please_.

-- woody

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but it's way more interesting than hi-fi. anyway you started it

Tom

Actively enjoying it all

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More interesting than hifi? Err...not for me...only reason I started it was to explain why my setup looked a little - well, rubbish!

Maybe if you think so you could do some work for Relate?

-- woody

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Originally posted by Steven Toy:
All my posts that mention my relationship are directly related to hi-fi.

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I have my own space in my parental home and she's here for half the week.

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Steven,

that last post of yours mentioned your relation and was, IMHO, nothing to do with hi-fi at all. As you say, you've let yourself be wound up by herm.

I think you should give it a rest at this point. You'll preserve your dignity and deny herm the pleasure of goading you on ever further.

That said, I, too, think marital advice is better left to other fora.