intro2 vs kan1

I home demo'd the following speakers, again - looking for the same " sound " but with more bass.

Intro 1
Royd dublet
Royd Abbot

The intro and dublet performed the best, the abbot was too tough for the nait. They were neither better, I felt they traded deeper bass for less " swing " alot of money for a lateral move . . .

I have not heard the Intro II, and it is supposed to be alot better. Also, maybe have a look at the new Royd's as well, they are supposed to be sweet.

I think, like me, you are going to have a very hard time repalcing the Kan's without alot of $$'s.

Now the one thing that comes into play is the amp. While I love the sound, there is not alot of control there. ( Compare your Kans on your nait to the something like a 250 and you will gasp. ) But if your like me you don't have the $$ for a 250 plus control.

Now on a totally different path, I am going ( when funds allow ) to look at gasp; Linn's subwoofer the Sizmik. I have been told ( a friend who I trust - even if his world is round )that it sounds very good. Now will it intigrate and time well ??? Rumours are prommising, but....

anyway, ramble is over, just a few disassociated thoughts, good luck.

mykel

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Since I don't really feel like parting with the cash for a new pre/power combo I was wondering what would be the best value for money s/h buy? perhaps 72/140 , 92/90 , ??/?? comments appreciated.

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On the second hand market I would pretty much ignore the 92 / 90, you can do much better with slightly older Naim kit, and I personally don't concider the 90 to have enough juice to do justice to Kans.

Preamps: I would get a 72 or above if you want the new look, or a 32.5 if money is tighter. I would not bother with any of the other old style preamps unless you are on a really tight budget, and at that point I would probably only consider the 62.

Power amps: Probably the best bang per buck comes from:

110 - peanuts to buy, will kill a 90.

140 - old style ones are very cheap, though don't use the same transistors as most of the new style ones, they don't sound quite as good, you pays your money and makes your choice.

160 - true bargain amp, the later ones in the extruded case really sound excellent. Naim's first amp, and still one of their best. Getting quite hard to find, though can still be had for the price of a good 140 if you are lucky.

250 - the classic Naim power amp, has been in production since about 1974, so a good number out there. Early bolt together case models can be had very cheaply, and still sound ok. Case changed in 1980, transformer in 84, new style case arrived in 89. Later models are worth more, there are some bargains out there.

Any amp over 10 years old will need a service and recap pretty soon, but I would not be put off by that.

Tony.

No bass in = no bass out.

- GregB

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Having owned a CD3 and done repeated demos and listening at various friend's houses, I suggest that you will need to *-cap the 3.5 before the speaker change would be worthwhile in the bass. A CDX would be better yet.

Even so, the Kans may still win out overall even if not in the quantity of bass. Heck, I didn't think my 140 amp and smallish speakers DID bass until I heard it with a CDX at the front. My humble system gained an extra octave (subjectively) and grip I thought I would need a 250 and bigger speakers to get.

Thems my $.02.

- GregB

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I do not work in any of those areas they are just passions, just like music.

regards
Andreas