To your opinion, what is a "Hi End" audio equipment?
Posted by: Arye_Gur on 30 June 2003
What is “Hi End” ?
Can you explain what is the meaning of this phrase with audio equipment?
What makes equipment a “Hi End” one? The price? Its value? Its structure quality? Its sound quality? Other factors?
Arye
Can you explain what is the meaning of this phrase with audio equipment?
What makes equipment a “Hi End” one? The price? Its value? Its structure quality? Its sound quality? Other factors?
Arye
Posted on: 30 June 2003 by NB
Anything thats more than you can afford!
Regards
NB
Regards
NB
Posted on: 01 July 2003 by John G.
Whatever is being advertised in hi end Hi-Fi magazines that month.
Posted on: 01 July 2003 by greeny
The same thing that makes certain cars prestige and others not.
i.e Price, reputation, Image!!.
It's all relative though I suppose, to the average bod on the street anything over about £1000 for a full system is Hi End (even a Sony midi system).
On this forum, Hi End will refer to the more expensive gear of specialist manufacturers, or generally that gear in each catagory near to the best available.
i.e Price, reputation, Image!!.
It's all relative though I suppose, to the average bod on the street anything over about £1000 for a full system is Hi End (even a Sony midi system).
On this forum, Hi End will refer to the more expensive gear of specialist manufacturers, or generally that gear in each catagory near to the best available.
Posted on: 01 July 2003 by Idris Mohammed
Hello Arye,
In my opinion High-End Audio simply means the upper segment of the audio market which usually refers to high performance and regrettably associated high prices.
However even though a particular piece of audio equipment is very expensive, doesn't mean it will sound good. Sadly a lot of so called "High-End" audio makes are overpriced relative to their production/marketing costs.
The term "cheap and good" is seldom seen in audio but the term "expensive and crappy" is plentiful so please be careful when making buying decisions which involve huge amount of money.
It's just my opinion of things that have been going on for many, many years.
Idris Mohammed.
In my opinion High-End Audio simply means the upper segment of the audio market which usually refers to high performance and regrettably associated high prices.
However even though a particular piece of audio equipment is very expensive, doesn't mean it will sound good. Sadly a lot of so called "High-End" audio makes are overpriced relative to their production/marketing costs.
The term "cheap and good" is seldom seen in audio but the term "expensive and crappy" is plentiful so please be careful when making buying decisions which involve huge amount of money.
It's just my opinion of things that have been going on for many, many years.
Idris Mohammed.
Posted on: 01 July 2003 by JohnMak
Ayre-gur, There is no such thing as "High End" other than in Harry Pearsons dreams. Our ears hear what they can hear and no amount of technology can improve that.
We all "love what we love" and we (mostly men)form into little cozy collectives to support our insecurities (much the same as women do with theit womens magazines)
The fact is most of us non classical folk love to go and hear a live band playing in the most awful conditions and through what can hardly be called "Hi Fi" .... but we enjoy it immensely. Most practicing musicians (and civilians) I know have very basic music systems but they enjoy their music listening immensely without having siezures about separate spurs, warm up times, power supplies, interconnects and cables etc. All power to them.
I often feel it's a bit like the old adage ..... Those that can, (make music) DO, and those that can't, TEACH (or in this case, listen and pretend they know what they're talking about)
Doesn't really apply to us though does it?
We all "love what we love" and we (mostly men)form into little cozy collectives to support our insecurities (much the same as women do with theit womens magazines)
The fact is most of us non classical folk love to go and hear a live band playing in the most awful conditions and through what can hardly be called "Hi Fi" .... but we enjoy it immensely. Most practicing musicians (and civilians) I know have very basic music systems but they enjoy their music listening immensely without having siezures about separate spurs, warm up times, power supplies, interconnects and cables etc. All power to them.
I often feel it's a bit like the old adage ..... Those that can, (make music) DO, and those that can't, TEACH (or in this case, listen and pretend they know what they're talking about)
Doesn't really apply to us though does it?
Posted on: 01 July 2003 by prowla
Possible definitions of "high end":
Option #1: Any component that costs more than any other of your possessions bar house & car. (Excluding other Hi-Fi, of course, or it would be recursive.)
Option #2: Where your Hi-Fi cost more than your kitchen.
Option #3: Where you see luxury pads on TV or in a movie and smugly pass the comment that your Hi-Fi is better than theirs.
Option #1: Any component that costs more than any other of your possessions bar house & car. (Excluding other Hi-Fi, of course, or it would be recursive.)
Option #2: Where your Hi-Fi cost more than your kitchen.
Option #3: Where you see luxury pads on TV or in a movie and smugly pass the comment that your Hi-Fi is better than theirs.
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by JohanR
Quote:
"Any component that costs more than any other of your possessions bar house & car."
My HiFi system costs roughly what most people think is okay for a new car. Thanfully I have two new cars.
Quote:
"Where your Hi-Fi cost more than your kitchen."
My fridge broke down 2 1/2 years ago. I think it's to expensive to replace...
Quote:
"Where you see luxury pads on TV or in a movie and smugly pass the comment that your Hi-Fi is better than theirs."
Hehe! Has happened to me. But it's not that often there is something interesting to comment. Last time, I think, was "American Psycho" where the "hero" had a Rega P9. Best ever was an early Morse where he had Naim amps.
JohanR
"Any component that costs more than any other of your possessions bar house & car."
My HiFi system costs roughly what most people think is okay for a new car. Thanfully I have two new cars.
Quote:
"Where your Hi-Fi cost more than your kitchen."
My fridge broke down 2 1/2 years ago. I think it's to expensive to replace...
Quote:
"Where you see luxury pads on TV or in a movie and smugly pass the comment that your Hi-Fi is better than theirs."
Hehe! Has happened to me. But it's not that often there is something interesting to comment. Last time, I think, was "American Psycho" where the "hero" had a Rega P9. Best ever was an early Morse where he had Naim amps.
JohanR
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by prowla
I remember once seeing the Young Ones where Rik Mayall had a Linn/Naim system.
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by Nigel Cavendish
The heavier it is the more hi-end it is, particulary if priced at £1000 per kilo.
cheers
Nigel
cheers
Nigel
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by HTK
Would everyone without exception say that the NAP500 is hi-end?
If you own one, it's just god's way of telling you you have too much money!
I think I could live with that knowledge.
Cheers
If you own one, it's just god's way of telling you you have too much money!
I think I could live with that knowledge.
Cheers
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by blythe
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Originally posted by prowla:
I remember once seeing the Young Ones where Rik Mayall had a Linn/Naim system.
I have all the episodes on VHS so will dig 'em out and take a look!
I never noticed it at the time when they were originally broadcast - but I probably had my old orange boxed BSR/Dansette at the time.......
Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Posted on: 03 July 2003 by blythe
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Originally posted by Christian S:
Good point Max!
How can Naim justify a price of nearly £2300 for a new NAP250? I bet the manufacturing cost is not even one fifth of that price!
If you can find something better for the price, buy it :-)
Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......