Scarlatti - Any Thoughts?
Posted by: droodzilla on 18 January 2008
I came across a keyboard sonata by Scarlatti on a CD of solo piano recordings yesterday, and liked it very much. I was also pleased That my appreciation of the history of music is improving. When I heard the piece, I thought, "hmm, nice, kinda like a cross between baroque and classical" (those were my exact, sub-vocalised, words), only to read in Wikipaedia later:
Hence this thread fror general Scarlatti related musings. Which of the his 555(!) keyboard sonatas are worth hearing? Piano v Harpsichord (that old chestnut). And so forth...
quote:Giuseppe Domenico Scarlatti (October 26, 1685 – July 23, 1757) was an Italian composer who spent much of his life in Spain and Portugal. He is classified as a Baroque composer chronologically, although his music was influential in the development of the Classical style.
Hence this thread fror general Scarlatti related musings. Which of the his 555(!) keyboard sonatas are worth hearing? Piano v Harpsichord (that old chestnut). And so forth...
Posted on: 19 January 2008 by Todd A
Ultimately all of the 555 sonatas are worth hearing, and Scott Ross' excellent cycle of all the sonatas is pretty cheap nowadays. I've worked my way through the whole thing twice, and find it a treasure trove of riches. I'm planning on buying some more harpsichord recordings in the near future.
For piano recordings you simply must hear Mikhail Pletnev on Virgin. Amazing in every regard. Ivo Pogorelich and Sergei Babayan are nearly as compelling. Andras Schiff (on Decca, don't know his Hungaroton recording) is suppler and gentler, yet quite remarkable, too.
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For piano recordings you simply must hear Mikhail Pletnev on Virgin. Amazing in every regard. Ivo Pogorelich and Sergei Babayan are nearly as compelling. Andras Schiff (on Decca, don't know his Hungaroton recording) is suppler and gentler, yet quite remarkable, too.
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Posted on: 20 January 2008 by droodzilla
Thanks Todd, I'll definitely check the Pletnev out. What about good selections on harpsichord (not sure I'm ready for the full 34CD experience yet - though your excellent "Summer of Scarlatti" post did tempt me)?
Posted on: 20 January 2008 by mtuttleb
quote:What about good selections on harpsichord
The Pierre Hantai discs (and Bach Goldbergs) on Mirare are excellent.
Regards
Mark
Posted on: 20 January 2008 by droodzilla
Thanks mark - shoulda thought of Hantai myself!
Posted on: 20 January 2008 by Haim Ronen
Droo,
A facinating Domenico Scarlatti disc, a 'must have', is of Teodoro Anzellotti playing his Accordion on the Winter & Winter label.
It is an exquisite meeting of sounds from the different worlds of the European structered music and the Andalusian gypsy free spirited music which Scarlati found in Spain.
Haim
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/3383694?rk=classic&rsk=hitlist
A facinating Domenico Scarlatti disc, a 'must have', is of Teodoro Anzellotti playing his Accordion on the Winter & Winter label.
It is an exquisite meeting of sounds from the different worlds of the European structered music and the Andalusian gypsy free spirited music which Scarlati found in Spain.
Haim
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/3383694?rk=classic&rsk=hitlist

Posted on: 20 January 2008 by droodzilla
Haim
Thanks, I wouldn't have found that in weeks of surfing. The samples sound absolutely delightful. Oh dear, this is gonna be expensive...
Thanks, I wouldn't have found that in weeks of surfing. The samples sound absolutely delightful. Oh dear, this is gonna be expensive...
Posted on: 20 January 2008 by Haim Ronen
quote:Originally posted by droodzilla:
Haim
Thanks, I wouldn't have found that in weeks of surfing. The samples sound absolutely delightful. Oh dear, this is gonna be expensive...
Good. I just brought up the disc from downstairs (I keep my music in our basement) so I could add it to my iTunes on the Mac.
I found it years ago when I was sampling different musics on the Winter & Winter site. I already owned an excellent accordion disc by Stefan Hussong doing Bach's English Suites, so I did not think twice and got the Scarlatti.
Droo, when you are ready and if you can still find it...
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-English-Suites-Nos-5/dp/B000...id=1200844318&sr=1-2
Haim
Posted on: 21 January 2008 by Unstoppable
Since no one has mentioned it, I'll put in a word for the Horowitz recording from the mid 60's. Every other recording of this composer has sounded like sewing machine music, to me.
Mac
Mac
Posted on: 21 January 2008 by mtuttleb
quote:Since no one has mentioned it, I'll put in a word for the Horowitz recording from the mid 60's. Every other recording of this composer has sounded like sewing machine music, to me.
It is interesting to read what Pierre Hantai has to say.
"If it's not played in the right spirit, if the instrument is unsuitable, if understanding of the structure is lacking (or if the fingers are too lazy...), Scarlatti most often comes out sounding like a trivial, even stupid composer. But Scarlatti is something completely different from that: he needs performers who are proud, who are colourists, excited by the rapid changes in texture. For me, Leonardt and Landowska are the players who understand him best. With them, you won't find the slightest sentimentality. An above all, wonder of wonders, when they're playing you suddenly realise that this is great music! Horowitz, of course, is masterly. But it has to be said that the modern piano does rather smooth the rough edges off this repertoire, and the demonic effects you often find in it lose much of their meaning."
Posted on: 21 January 2008 by Unstoppable
If I'm not mistaken, Ralph Kirkpatrick, the musics' cataloger and foremost authority, heard Horowitz's performances and deemed the excellent. However, I would certainly like to hear Leonhardt's performances as he's one of the few harpsichordists who can hold my attention.
Mac
Mac
Posted on: 21 January 2008 by rough edges
Horowitz is in a league of his own when it comes to Scarlatti. Pogorelich is also very good with this composer. Pletnev would be the first choice, only if the other two didn't exist. All IMHO, of course.
Regards,
BB
Regards,
BB
Posted on: 22 January 2008 by Oldnslow
On piano, Sudbin's Scarlatti recording on BIS is excellent.
Posted on: 23 January 2008 by droodzilla
While we're on the subject, could someone please explain what is meant by "binary form" - most of Scarlatti's sonatas are in it, apparently? In language that a complete ignoramus could understand, please!
Posted on: 23 January 2008 by droodzilla
Well, I plumped for the Pletnev double CD as my starter for ten - impulse buy from HMV (in truth I was please to see any Scarlatti at all in the racks). It's dazzling stuff, which, according to the notes, the Italian poet Gabriele D'Annunzio described thus:
I really couldn't have put it better myself.
Next step is to try out a harpsichord disc or two, to help me decide if I'm ready to take the plunge with the Scott Ross set (gulp).
In short, 31 down, 524 to go!
quote:A necklace that breaks, producing a resounding hail of glistening pearls rolling around and bouncing about like precious bubbles or drops of watery beauty.
I really couldn't have put it better myself.
Next step is to try out a harpsichord disc or two, to help me decide if I'm ready to take the plunge with the Scott Ross set (gulp).
In short, 31 down, 524 to go!
Posted on: 16 February 2008 by Todd A
Looks like another complete set is available. Don't know anything about, but the price is right. Who knows, maybe I need another set . . .
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