Snow pics exposure setting.
Posted by: BigH47 on 05 January 2010
I've just taken a few snow pics flash and long exposure, the later ones are "orangy". i assume I need to change something White balance? what settings should I use?
I should know this stuff by now.
Canon EOS 350D.
With flash.
Without.
I should know this stuff by now.
Canon EOS 350D.
With flash.

Without.

Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Blueknowz
Don't know about digital,but I usually allow to extra stops!
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Dan Carney
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Lontano
Howard - did you shoot in RAW. Easy to change white balance if you did. First pic is auto setting in camera, second pic is just mucking about with white balance in raw editor - not saying it is right but very easy to change (in fact I seem to have made it too green now). Did not use flash - iso 1600 on this one. To be honest, it is quite orange out there right now with street lights on the snow.


Posted on: 05 January 2010 by fatcat
Orange cast is caused by streetlights, set the camera for tungsten lighting.
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by BigH47
That's the word RAW, I've never used it.
Back out into the cold, well the door step.
Thanks.
Back out into the cold, well the door step.
Thanks.
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Mike-B
Yes u need RAW, but your non-flash pix has street lights as the major light source and that is where u get the orange.
Get inside, it will be much better for pix tomorrow, assuming we get some bright or better still sun light
I am promised 30 to 40cm, that's 12 to 16 f#### inches, we am looking at it thru the patio doors, Dire Straits, Los Lobos & Clapton, plus a Macallan 18 (or 2)
Get inside, it will be much better for pix tomorrow, assuming we get some bright or better still sun light
I am promised 30 to 40cm, that's 12 to 16 f#### inches, we am looking at it thru the patio doors, Dire Straits, Los Lobos & Clapton, plus a Macallan 18 (or 2)
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by BigH47
Great fun playing with some RAW images. RAW is only available with the "serious" settings ie the ones I know nothing about. So I took several on each A-Dep, M (manual, I know that one)Av, Tv and P. Not sure which are which, but it's all good fun.
Mike-B yes I intend to take a stroll in the daylight, but can get some quite atmospheric shots at night with the tripod.
It's eased into "small" snow , the big flakes have stopped. Around 2-3 inches I would think. Just as well I'm of Wednesdays and Thursdays.
I can match the music, but sadly I can't run to Macallan, so it's just some blended in my coffee, purely medicinal of course.
Mike-B yes I intend to take a stroll in the daylight, but can get some quite atmospheric shots at night with the tripod.
It's eased into "small" snow , the big flakes have stopped. Around 2-3 inches I would think. Just as well I'm of Wednesdays and Thursdays.
I can match the music, but sadly I can't run to Macallan, so it's just some blended in my coffee, purely medicinal of course.
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by u5227470736789439
Is this a good camera?
Instinct tells me it might be quite fine ...
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ38EB-K Digital Camera
ATB from George
PS: My little Cannon IXus has been lifted by a rea leaf ... possibly ... If the Pany is given the thumbs up I will go for it after some saving ...
Instinct tells me it might be quite fine ...
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ38EB-K Digital Camera
ATB from George
PS: My little Cannon IXus has been lifted by a rea leaf ... possibly ... If the Pany is given the thumbs up I will go for it after some saving ...
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Christopher_M
Hi,
I've had just the same problem, probably down to sodium street lighting, at work this evening. I shoot jpegs but hadn't changed the white balance. So I added lots of blue and a bit of green in Photoshop.
Chris
I've had just the same problem, probably down to sodium street lighting, at work this evening. I shoot jpegs but hadn't changed the white balance. So I added lots of blue and a bit of green in Photoshop.
Chris
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by BigH47
Smaller (compact) Pannys TZ3-7 and DX 3 ? are very good cameras , I suspect due to the Leica optics. So no reason the FZ38 should be any different. Is it an SLR ? does it have interchangeable lenses?
If you are used to an iXus type compact maybe TZ3 would suit you (sir).
Lontano or Julian should offer further info, I would think.
If you are used to an iXus type compact maybe TZ3 would suit you (sir).
Lontano or Julian should offer further info, I would think.
Posted on: 05 January 2010 by Mike-B
Guys don't get hung up on camera's, my Canon-5 has the same orange stuff. But a few minutes on editing tomorrow will fix it.
The Macallan is just a way to mellow into the music, Eva is on now, might do some more
nite nite
The Macallan is just a way to mellow into the music, Eva is on now, might do some more

Posted on: 05 January 2010 by u5227470736789439
Dear BigH,
It is something like a rangefinder, with the option of manual or automatic setting. I fancy that as sometimes [drunk at a Wedding, or whatever] manual is a waste of time - none of the pictures are any good after inebriation sets in, and with auto more than half can be - I might be moderately successful with such a camera! I speak from experience! My last really nice camera was a Canon rangefinder, a Canonet. I took some lovely pictures with that one.
It has a very broad-range Lieca telephoto lense, that is probably much finer than the efforts in most smaller cameras, without the cost of a Lieca body, or the weight of an SLR ...
ATB from George
It is something like a rangefinder, with the option of manual or automatic setting. I fancy that as sometimes [drunk at a Wedding, or whatever] manual is a waste of time - none of the pictures are any good after inebriation sets in, and with auto more than half can be - I might be moderately successful with such a camera! I speak from experience! My last really nice camera was a Canon rangefinder, a Canonet. I took some lovely pictures with that one.
It has a very broad-range Lieca telephoto lense, that is probably much finer than the efforts in most smaller cameras, without the cost of a Lieca body, or the weight of an SLR ...
ATB from George
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Lontano
Howard - a nice blue tinge this morning and a lucky escape for my car overnight as this old tree came down within a few inches of it due to weight of snow

Posted on: 06 January 2010 by BigH47
It's Saw 8 then?
I took some more this morning, but I'd left the WB on fluorescent so some very blue shots.
I'm out again in a 'mo for some more.
I took some more this morning, but I'd left the WB on fluorescent so some very blue shots.
I'm out again in a 'mo for some more.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Lontano
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
It's Saw 8 then?
I took some more this morning, but I'd left the WB on fluorescent so some very blue shots.
I'm out again in a 'mo for some more.
Howard - I just shoot in Raw, auto settings and then you can adjust settings afterwards in Digital Camera Professional. You should be able, if you shot in RAW, to change the settings off fluorescent.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by BigH47
Yes I realise that , it had limited the range of temperatures that I could use.
Just got back with a load more, I left it set on AAW and Tv seems a lot more normal looking now.
Hard work walking in the snow.
It's good to see white van man is still a dickhead even in the snow. Saw 2 different vans almost out of control round a bend , you guessed it both on the phone. Wankers.
Just got back with a load more, I left it set on AAW and Tv seems a lot more normal looking now.
Hard work walking in the snow.
It's good to see white van man is still a dickhead even in the snow. Saw 2 different vans almost out of control round a bend , you guessed it both on the phone. Wankers.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by GML
I was always told to over expose snow scenes by one stop.
Normally you would expect a reading of 125 at F11 but this gives a blue tinge. 125 at F8 gives the best exposure in most cases IMO.
Normally you would expect a reading of 125 at F11 but this gives a blue tinge. 125 at F8 gives the best exposure in most cases IMO.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Mike-B
Also worth trying a lower ISO (ASA) setting
I use 100 for weddings, it captures light (white) detail better whilst still keeping the dark area detail to enable to be used in editing. A high ISO number tends to burn white easier loosing the detail, or not capture dark detail
I use 100 for weddings, it captures light (white) detail better whilst still keeping the dark area detail to enable to be used in editing. A high ISO number tends to burn white easier loosing the detail, or not capture dark detail
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Derek Wright
Here is a pic taken last evening with the camera set to auto exposure and white balance pointing out thru the glass window - no artifical light aart from the glow of the urban lights reflected back from the sky (clouds)
This is the same picture but with colour correction applied ie areas that should be grey based have been set to grey
I have made some tonal adjustment to improve the balance and lightened the shadows on the colour adjusted image.
What surprised me was the amount of light that was available.

This is the same picture but with colour correction applied ie areas that should be grey based have been set to grey

I have made some tonal adjustment to improve the balance and lightened the shadows on the colour adjusted image.
What surprised me was the amount of light that was available.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Lontano
quote:Originally posted by munch:
Still no snow here to take pictures of.![]()
It's fun to start with but novelty now wearing off. Enjoy it whilst you have not got it.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by BigH47
A couple of local snow people, 1st one is about 7+ ft high.:-


Posted on: 06 January 2010 by MilesSmiles
More snowmen, this one by father & son.
... and with the right exposure later in the afternoon.

... and with the right exposure later in the afternoon.


Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Derek Wright
The "big road " was impassible so the drivers instigated a dump and walk scheme on the local roads. This van appeared to be some what redundant.

Posted on: 06 January 2010 by bhaagensen
quote:Originally posted by GML:
I was always told to over expose snow scenes by one stop.
Conversely, for the same reasons, a slight underexposure is often called for when doing close ups of black Naim gear

Posted on: 06 January 2010 by Robbert
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