Obama's First Year
Posted by: Mick P on 25 January 2010
Chaps
Obama was elected mainly by promising change.
Simple question ... has he actually changed anything and if not will he be able to do so.
The Republicans have taken a safe Democrat seat and now his medical bill is looking difficult to move on and his oppenents seem to be outflanking him.
He even failed to charm any change on the environment at Copenhagen, so just what has he achieved.
I was convinced he was a bag of wind and so far I still remain convinced.
I suspect Palin is loving every minute of this.
Regards
Mick
Obama was elected mainly by promising change.
Simple question ... has he actually changed anything and if not will he be able to do so.
The Republicans have taken a safe Democrat seat and now his medical bill is looking difficult to move on and his oppenents seem to be outflanking him.
He even failed to charm any change on the environment at Copenhagen, so just what has he achieved.
I was convinced he was a bag of wind and so far I still remain convinced.
I suspect Palin is loving every minute of this.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Marc
If you genuinely believe that the West will not suffer if oil supplies are cut off, then you are without doubt a total fool.
Oil is the life blood of our commerce and unfortunately that is likely to be the case for many years to come.
If you can think of a way of eliminating that dependancy, then you will make so much money, you will make Bill Gates appear to be a pauper.
Regards
Mick
Mick-
There you go making shit up again.
I have not posted one word addressing how I would feel if we were cut off. I have not even insinuated to that point. I posted to show the difference in size between our 2 nations and have suggested that America is moving towards a better place.
Your level of arrogance impresses me. Feel the hate in you. Come to the darkside Mick. Together we will rule the universe.
There are many ways to minimize and in some cases eliminate dependency. That train left the station a long time ago. Wind,bio,hydrogen cell,electric,and super clean coal are just a few of the emerging sciences that will lead us to a better planet.
As far as making money goes? My wish is to insure the small businesses who are putting their life's work into these technologies, put the big oil companies out of business in the future. However,Mr. Mick,the oil companies are smart. They really do not care what they sell.Just as long as there is a demand. If it is not oil,so what? Make it Hydrogen or bio. I have seen bio already in a few stations. Over a dollar cheaper per gallon!! That's just for starts!!
Sorry,Mick.
I ain't going to drink your Koolaid.
MN
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Mick P
Marc
You argue for the sake of it and most of the time talk total drivel and your last posting has provided the evidence for other to judge.
Regards
Mick
You argue for the sake of it and most of the time talk total drivel and your last posting has provided the evidence for other to judge.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by u5227470736789439
PAX?
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Marc
You argue for the sake of it and most of the time talk total drivel and your last posting has provided the evidence for other to judge.
Regards
Mick
All due respect,Mick.
You can dish it out. But,for sure,you can not take it.
MN
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:
PAX?
George?
PAX??
Marc
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by u5227470736789439
quote:PAX?
Means Peace. I respect you both too much to enjoy watching this.
Best wishes to both of you. I mean it. ATB from George
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:quote:PAX?
I can't imagine your talking about Linux code.
Marc
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Mick P
Marc
I am paid to crucify commercial opponents and the reason why I can still easily get work in the current climate is due to a proven track record of being able to dish it out. I don't take it because only fools take it.
I thnk I can accept the fact that you think I am arrogant and you can accept the fact that I think you are a moron.
On that happy note we can shake hands and as it is approaching midnight, I am off to bed.
Regards
Mick
I am paid to crucify commercial opponents and the reason why I can still easily get work in the current climate is due to a proven track record of being able to dish it out. I don't take it because only fools take it.
I thnk I can accept the fact that you think I am arrogant and you can accept the fact that I think you are a moron.
On that happy note we can shake hands and as it is approaching midnight, I am off to bed.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by u5227470736789439
Latin - not Linux, though I used to be able to do Machine Code!
Wrote a very long program in MC once to control a Solar-tracker! It worked beautifully, based in inputs compared from LDRs [and Schmitt triggers in the comparator stage], and thus controlling the movements in the horizontal plain, and the rotational ... via transistor activated DC currents to small motors actuating the mechanism! I designed a small current amplifier stage that would have opperated relays for bigger motors on a big scale but fed the motors directly [with automatically reversible polarity depending on the PC output to the amplifier sections, obviously], but no one recognised that side of me!
I used 4 ampere transistors because the gain on a 1 amp transistors [pnp and npn pairs] could not deliver the current required and so the voltage fell to a point where the mortors did not have the torque to opperate the mechanics of it. The whole thing was built on an old and gutted BSR turntable with motors pinched from an old Sony tape recorder. The DC motors, 6 volts nominal, but in my design opperating at 5v.
Best wishes from George
Wrote a very long program in MC once to control a Solar-tracker! It worked beautifully, based in inputs compared from LDRs [and Schmitt triggers in the comparator stage], and thus controlling the movements in the horizontal plain, and the rotational ... via transistor activated DC currents to small motors actuating the mechanism! I designed a small current amplifier stage that would have opperated relays for bigger motors on a big scale but fed the motors directly [with automatically reversible polarity depending on the PC output to the amplifier sections, obviously], but no one recognised that side of me!
I used 4 ampere transistors because the gain on a 1 amp transistors [pnp and npn pairs] could not deliver the current required and so the voltage fell to a point where the mortors did not have the torque to opperate the mechanics of it. The whole thing was built on an old and gutted BSR turntable with motors pinched from an old Sony tape recorder. The DC motors, 6 volts nominal, but in my design opperating at 5v.
Best wishes from George
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:
Latin - not Linux, though I used to be able to do Machine Code!
Wrote a very long program in MC once to control a Solar-tracker! It worked beautifully, based in inputs compared from LDRs [and Schmitt triggers in the comparator stage], and thus controlling the movements in the horizontal plain, and the rotational ... via transistor activated DC currents to small motors actuating the mechanism! I designed a small current amplifier stage that would have opperated relays for bigger motors on a big scale but fed the motors directly [with automatically reversible polarity depending on the PC output to the amplifier sections, obviously], but no one recognised that side of me!
I used 4 ampere transistors because the gain on a 1 amp transistors [pnp and npn pairs] could not deliver the current required and so the voltage fell to a point where the mortors did not have the torque to opperate the mechanics of it. The whole thing was built on an old and gutted BSR turntable with motors pinched from an old Sony tape recorder. The DC motors, 6 volts nominal, but in my design opperating at 5v.
Best wishes from George
Nice...
Marc
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
"Marc
I am paid to crucify commercial opponents and the reason why I can still easily get work in the current climate is due to a proven track record of being able to dish it out. I don't take it because only fools take it.
I thnk I can accept the fact that you think I am arrogant and you can accept the fact that I think you are a moron.
On that happy note we can shake hands and as it is approaching midnight, I am off to bed.
Regards
Mick"
"I am paid to crucify commercial opponents"
So am I...
MN
I am paid to crucify commercial opponents and the reason why I can still easily get work in the current climate is due to a proven track record of being able to dish it out. I don't take it because only fools take it.
I thnk I can accept the fact that you think I am arrogant and you can accept the fact that I think you are a moron.
On that happy note we can shake hands and as it is approaching midnight, I am off to bed.
Regards
Mick"
"I am paid to crucify commercial opponents"
So am I...
MN
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Onthlam
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Marc
You argue for the sake of it and most of the time talk total drivel and your last posting has provided the evidence for other to judge.
Regards
Mick
No,Mick.
If I disagree and feel the need to argue? "I don't take it because only fools take it."
MN
Posted on: 04 February 2010 by Phil Barry
The promise of change galvanized support for Obama, but as a previous writer said, dissatisfaction with Bush palyed a big part in the victory.
A few points:
The 2008 margin looks big only when compared to '04 and '00, which were probably stolen.
Given our system of government, anyone who thought we'd get major change quickly is ... seriously mistaken.
Obama has been subjected to an especially harsh vitriol by people who generally do not participate actively in politics, probably because of his skin color.
The Republican 'leaders' decided to be the party of 'No!', encouraged by Fox 'News' and their 'base' - which has long included elements that became the tea partiers. Consider just the nominations for executive branch positions that are bottled up in committee by Republican senators who want Obama to fail. Consider the reversals by leading Republicans - McCain opposes open homosexuals in the armed forces now, even though the military leadership is in favor of it, and even though 3 or 4 years ago he said he'd drop 'don't ask, don't tell' if the military leadership came out against it.
The forces of change are at a major disadvantage in any case - they have to negotiate many barriers and succeed at overcoming every one of them. The defenders of the status quo only have to win once.
Our economy is a shambles - I have little doubt that's due to the economic policies of Reagan, Bush, and Clinton, compounded by the lionization of financial engineers and the spending that was beyond belief by the Bush/Cheney thieves.
At the same time, Obama seriously misjudged the political situation - he continued way too long to limit his proposals in the hope of bringing the Republicans into real dialog.
Further, Obama and the Democrats gave up control of the message. They let the opposition sell lies as truth on issue after issue.
Consider, for example, the execrable glenn beck who keeps saying we have the best health care system in the world - less than 2 years after experiencing that system at its worst. Consider the opposition to health insurance reform because it has a public option - but the public option is dead. Much of the opposition claims that Medicare in not a government program, for crying out loud!
Finally, the Democratic Party has been unable to get itself together. Bush governed with small congressional majorities. The Democrats haven't been able to.
Everybody should read Bacevich's The Limits of Power. Republicans should read it with shame - and then shut up.
Philip Barry
A few points:
The 2008 margin looks big only when compared to '04 and '00, which were probably stolen.
Given our system of government, anyone who thought we'd get major change quickly is ... seriously mistaken.
Obama has been subjected to an especially harsh vitriol by people who generally do not participate actively in politics, probably because of his skin color.
The Republican 'leaders' decided to be the party of 'No!', encouraged by Fox 'News' and their 'base' - which has long included elements that became the tea partiers. Consider just the nominations for executive branch positions that are bottled up in committee by Republican senators who want Obama to fail. Consider the reversals by leading Republicans - McCain opposes open homosexuals in the armed forces now, even though the military leadership is in favor of it, and even though 3 or 4 years ago he said he'd drop 'don't ask, don't tell' if the military leadership came out against it.
The forces of change are at a major disadvantage in any case - they have to negotiate many barriers and succeed at overcoming every one of them. The defenders of the status quo only have to win once.
Our economy is a shambles - I have little doubt that's due to the economic policies of Reagan, Bush, and Clinton, compounded by the lionization of financial engineers and the spending that was beyond belief by the Bush/Cheney thieves.
At the same time, Obama seriously misjudged the political situation - he continued way too long to limit his proposals in the hope of bringing the Republicans into real dialog.
Further, Obama and the Democrats gave up control of the message. They let the opposition sell lies as truth on issue after issue.
Consider, for example, the execrable glenn beck who keeps saying we have the best health care system in the world - less than 2 years after experiencing that system at its worst. Consider the opposition to health insurance reform because it has a public option - but the public option is dead. Much of the opposition claims that Medicare in not a government program, for crying out loud!
Finally, the Democratic Party has been unable to get itself together. Bush governed with small congressional majorities. The Democrats haven't been able to.
Everybody should read Bacevich's The Limits of Power. Republicans should read it with shame - and then shut up.
Philip Barry
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mick P
Phil
I think America's problem is its political system, which although democratic, fails to deliver the goods.
Look at the result of your last selection process. the final four were
1. Obama - a profound bullshitter who promised the earth.
2. Clinton - a power obsessed maniac whose only interest is herself.
3. McCain - a joke well past his sell by date.
4. Palin - moron fodder.
You really have a problem if any of them live in the Whitehouse.
I am by nature a Conservative and if I was an American Republican, I might have considered suicide, with McCain and Palin it was dead before it started. How the hell did those two sift through the process.
Regards
Mick
I think America's problem is its political system, which although democratic, fails to deliver the goods.
Look at the result of your last selection process. the final four were
1. Obama - a profound bullshitter who promised the earth.
2. Clinton - a power obsessed maniac whose only interest is herself.
3. McCain - a joke well past his sell by date.
4. Palin - moron fodder.
You really have a problem if any of them live in the Whitehouse.
I am by nature a Conservative and if I was an American Republican, I might have considered suicide, with McCain and Palin it was dead before it started. How the hell did those two sift through the process.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Joe Bibb
Mick,
Have you seen the electorate? With great respect to our fine US colleagues here on the Forum, they are not at all representative of vast swathes of US voting fodder. Many of those make Palin look worldly wise and intelligent. Just as here, they will get the politicians that reflect their population and media.
Neatly slice off the east and west coasts and you would be left with an electorate that considers Fox News to be dangerously liberal.
Joe
Have you seen the electorate? With great respect to our fine US colleagues here on the Forum, they are not at all representative of vast swathes of US voting fodder. Many of those make Palin look worldly wise and intelligent. Just as here, they will get the politicians that reflect their population and media.
Neatly slice off the east and west coasts and you would be left with an electorate that considers Fox News to be dangerously liberal.
Joe
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by BigH47
Joe your summary is unfortunately true, and you don't have to go too far away from the sea to meet these "characters".
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mick P
Joe
I have only been to America for a total of 8 weeks. Mainly in Florida and California which was touristy so probably not typical of the average American.
I have also had two cruises in the caribbean and the ship was populated mainly by Republican types who I liked. ie Stand on your own two feet, no spongeing off welfare and keep taxes down to the bone.
They seemed good decent hard working people.
Regards
Mick
I have only been to America for a total of 8 weeks. Mainly in Florida and California which was touristy so probably not typical of the average American.
I have also had two cruises in the caribbean and the ship was populated mainly by Republican types who I liked. ie Stand on your own two feet, no spongeing off welfare and keep taxes down to the bone.
They seemed good decent hard working people.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by BigH47
An American friend once said to us "don't judge America by their tourists" and apologised for them.
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mick P
I would also say do not judge mankind by the fools who post on fora.
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Joe Bibb
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Joe
I have only been to America for a total of 8 weeks. Mainly in Florida and California which was touristy so probably not typical of the average American.
I have also had two cruises in the caribbean and the ship was populated mainly by Republican types who I liked. ie Stand on your own two feet, no spongeing off welfare and keep taxes down to the bone.
They seemed good decent hard working people.
Regards
Mick
Ha ha. Yes, as I thought.
Meanwhile, Brits are all wearing top hats, drinking tea and have butlers. Since when were rich tourists representative of anyone's electorate. To be honest, having passports probably puts them in a small minority.
Toodle pip.
Joe
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mick P
Joe
I think you are being slightly sarcastic. Going on a Caribbean cruise is not expensive for an American, it is on their home ground.
They all seemed normal people and most of them did not even own a dinner jacket. I had to stop wearing mine because I looked conspicuous.
Regards
Mick
I think you are being slightly sarcastic. Going on a Caribbean cruise is not expensive for an American, it is on their home ground.
They all seemed normal people and most of them did not even own a dinner jacket. I had to stop wearing mine because I looked conspicuous.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Joe Bibb
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Joe
I think you are being slightly sarcastic. Going on a Caribbean cruise is not expensive for an American, it is on their home ground.
They all seemed normal people and most of them did not even own a dinner jacket. I had to stop wearing mine because I looked conspicuous.
Regards
Mick
Mick,
Not being sarky, just confirming that those chaps will be a long, long way from typical voting fodder on the home patch.
You should have stuck with the DJ, someone has to uphold standards. Yes I do realise that the Caribbean is their Canaries.
Joe
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mick P
Joe
How can you say they are not typical. Going on a cruise is something most people do nowadays when they get older.
Regards
Mick
How can you say they are not typical. Going on a cruise is something most people do nowadays when they get older.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Mike Dudley
Your upstanding, decent Republicans will probably now be thanking President Obama for rescuing them from a Vice-President one heartbeat away from power, who "couldn't explain why North and South Korea were seperate countries; thought Saddam Hussein was responsible for '9/11' and who couldn't identify the enemy that her newly deployed son was going to fight in Iraq"...
Wouldn't THAT have been fun?
Wouldn't THAT have been fun?
Posted on: 05 February 2010 by Joe Bibb
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Joe
How can you say they are not typical. Going on a cruise is something most people do nowadays when they get older.
Regards
Mick
Mick,
Most? It's a curious world you inhabit if that's what you really think. I used to assess seriously ill people, ended up thinking everyone might be ill. Maybe it's that kind of thing.
I'm hoping to preserve a bit more style than a cruise, if I'm lucky enough to make it that far. The thought of being confined to some old tub with a bunch of neo-conservative wrinklies holds little attraction from this distance.
Joe