How Long Have Black SNAICs Been Around ?
Posted by: markjp on 11 December 2001
How long have NAIM been using Black SNAICs ?
I have just purchased 2 Black SNAICS one from my NAC62 to NAP140. The other is from my Flatcap to CD3.5. On installing the cables I have noticed that the SNAIC from Flatcap to CD3.5 is already BLACK ! I know I should have checked my existing cables before buying the new ones, but I assumed that the Black SNAIC had ony just come out. I bought my Flatcap in March 2000.
Is my black SNAIC really a grey one in disguise !!
Mark
Posted on: 11 December 2001 by Willem van Gemert
In March 2000 the Snaics shipped with new Naim gear were already black. I would go back to your dealer and explain the situation. He shouldn't have a problem taking the one cable back, I suppose.
Ciao!
Willem
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by Willem van Gemert
Dave,
Where did that info come from? Not that I plan to change my "old" Black Snaics. Imagine changing cables every two years!
Ciao!
Willem
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by markjp
Thanks for your replies to my original post.
I phoned NAIM today and they said Black SNAICS have been around for 2- 2.5 years. The outer sheathing has changed since being black, some have a NAIM logo or say SNAIC some don't, but sonically there is no difference. Therefore if you have a black SNAIC you have the latest cable.
My dealer can't or won't give me a refund for the Black SNAIC I ordered from my Flatcap to 3.5 as it was a special order! I have asked them to see whether NAIM will swap it for a SNAIC between my CD3.5 and NAC62 (Which I know is definately grey!)
I may have to pay a surcharge though, dealer says it may be 20%.
Mark
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by Martin Payne
quote:
Date: 29-Jul-99 06:29 For example, a few months ago we discovered a very minor change to the length of a bit of insulation quite noticably affected the sound quality when using the CDSll or CDX and this was unfortunately after a few had been sent out - this may account for the some peoples' disatisfaction with the supplied cable.
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by Chris Metcalfe
Martin,
Presumably that quote refers to a CD interconnect, not a Snaic (?)
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by dave simpson
Might explain why my black snaic doesn't sound much different than my grey snaic on the cds 1.
...I'll check my purchase date, thanks Martin
dave
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by dave simpson
Just pulled the purchase invoice...dated April '99....(stroking chin)
dave
Posted on: 12 December 2001 by dave simpson
You know this means you've got to put all the Mana back in for another test.
Hope a Mana jacket can execute the test.
BTW--if you sold it already, let me ask if you were good enough to feed the poor blokes who came 'round to pick it up?
Actually I stuffed some 11 pieces including a 4 tier in my Camry and delivered it 90 miles one way.
regards,
dave
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by Willem van Gemert
quote:
Originally posted by dave simpson:
Might explain why my black snaic doesn't sound much different than my grey snaic on the cds 1.dave
That would surprise me, as the CDS I doesn't use a Snaic but a Burndy.
Ciao!
Willem
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by dave simpson
Thanks Willem !
dave
P.S. The black snaic (between my 102 and hi-cap) works much better than my brain or the grey snaic it replaced. However, my black burndy doesn't.Guess it'll bloom when I get that 52 one day;)
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by David Dever
quote:
Might explain why my black snaic doesn't sound much different than my grey snaic on the cds 1.
This doesn't apply to your CDS I Burndy lead, which was manufactured after the change. Perhaps you need to flex it a bit, as this will improve sound quality (in the same way that flexing a SNAIC willopen things up a bit).
Dave Dever, NANA
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Metcalfe:
Martin,
Presumably that quote refers to a CD interconnect, not a Snaic (?)
I understand that this manufacturing tweak was applied to all Naim cables from then on?
That info's a bit third-hand, but there are supposed to be early & late SNAICs, and I'd always thought this was the explanation.
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by dave simpson
Thanks for the tip Dave. I'll uhh... take it with me to the Tracy Lord film fest downtown tomorrow.
regards,
dave
Posted on: 13 December 2001 by Manu
quote:
Originally posted by markjp:
My dealer can't or won't give me a refund for the Black SNAIC I ordered from my Flatcap to 3.5 as it was a special order!Mark
Your dealer has to special order a SNAIC ???????????
A Burndy, i could understand but a SNAIC!!!
Quite strange.
Does he really sell Naim gears?
Emmanuel
