Mains conditioners
Posted by: andy c on 03 August 2003
Has anyone out there tried any of the mains conditioners currently on the market (Isotek, Russ andrews etc) in their Naim systems?
Any benefits?
Please don't tell me about a mains spur... I've read all the bits about them on this forum...ta!
Any benefits?
Please don't tell me about a mains spur... I've read all the bits about them on this forum...ta!
Posted on: 03 August 2003 by andy c
Hi Tom,
A seperate spur is on my list to co-incide with decorating the respective rooms the cable will have to go through/under/over etc. I Just need the cable to be hidden so as not to aggravate the better half then it will be authorised LOL!
A seperate spur is on my list to co-incide with decorating the respective rooms the cable will have to go through/under/over etc. I Just need the cable to be hidden so as not to aggravate the better half then it will be authorised LOL!
Posted on: 02 September 2003 by David Sutton
Hi Andy,
I somehow got suckered into getting a Russ Andrews SuperPurifier. I thought it made a modest difference, but now cannot tell if it is on or off. But it is for sale. However, I dont want to sell it to a fellow Naim owner! i would not recommend it.
I somehow got suckered into getting a Russ Andrews SuperPurifier. I thought it made a modest difference, but now cannot tell if it is on or off. But it is for sale. However, I dont want to sell it to a fellow Naim owner! i would not recommend it.
Posted on: 02 September 2003 by joe90
If you want to tear your sound to pieces and bassball-bat the music into submission, then go for it!
Joe90
Joe90
Posted on: 02 September 2003 by joe90
I see a fight brewing...
Posted on: 02 September 2003 by Jaybar
guys-
As an audiophile for over 23 years and from the USA, I find the tone of these posts to be highly offensive and riddled with misinformation and stereotypes.
Several US equipment manufacturers fail to endorse power conditioning units. Ayre generally does not recommend using them with their equipment, but does point out that there may be circumstances where the power is so noxious that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
Spectral did not recommened power conditioning equipment, until such time as units from MIT were specifically designed around Spectral gear.
Michael Green who has done lots of pioneering work in room acoustics advocates light equipment for minimal energy storage.
Over the years, I have listened to full Naim systems and have owned some Naim gear in the context of a non-Naim system and have come to the following conclusion:
Naim excells at musical involvement and exposiing the arcitecture and emotioanl side of the music creation. Somebody who values these attributes highly, will pride Naim gear and likely hold other gear in less esteem. Persons who prize tonal purity, imaging, soundstageing as the essential aspect of music recreation will likely look elseswhere. The higher up the food chain one goes in the Naim product line, the more the equipment combines involvement, emotion and tonal putity/imaging. But that can be said for several Americal manufacturers as well.
There is a self selection process going on here-big time. People who value what Naim does best value Naim components. People who hold other attributes to be more important look elsewhere. This ddoes not make Naim equipment better or worse, but a reflection of design idealogies.
Lets be more tolerant.
Jay
[This message was edited by Jaybar on WEDNESDAY 03 September 2003 at 06:58.]
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[This message was edited by Jaybar on WEDNESDAY 03 September 2003 at 07:02.]
As an audiophile for over 23 years and from the USA, I find the tone of these posts to be highly offensive and riddled with misinformation and stereotypes.
Several US equipment manufacturers fail to endorse power conditioning units. Ayre generally does not recommend using them with their equipment, but does point out that there may be circumstances where the power is so noxious that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
Spectral did not recommened power conditioning equipment, until such time as units from MIT were specifically designed around Spectral gear.
Michael Green who has done lots of pioneering work in room acoustics advocates light equipment for minimal energy storage.
Over the years, I have listened to full Naim systems and have owned some Naim gear in the context of a non-Naim system and have come to the following conclusion:
Naim excells at musical involvement and exposiing the arcitecture and emotioanl side of the music creation. Somebody who values these attributes highly, will pride Naim gear and likely hold other gear in less esteem. Persons who prize tonal purity, imaging, soundstageing as the essential aspect of music recreation will likely look elseswhere. The higher up the food chain one goes in the Naim product line, the more the equipment combines involvement, emotion and tonal putity/imaging. But that can be said for several Americal manufacturers as well.
There is a self selection process going on here-big time. People who value what Naim does best value Naim components. People who hold other attributes to be more important look elsewhere. This ddoes not make Naim equipment better or worse, but a reflection of design idealogies.
Lets be more tolerant.
Jay
[This message was edited by Jaybar on WEDNESDAY 03 September 2003 at 06:58.]
[This message was edited by Jaybar on WEDNESDAY 03 September 2003 at 07:00.]
[This message was edited by Jaybar on WEDNESDAY 03 September 2003 at 07:02.]
Posted on: 03 September 2003 by prowla
It's not just the black boxes that matter.
Mains, cables, stands, room acoustics, furniture, etc. all come into play.
It's the performance of the whole system that matters.
Naim can sound great, and also absolutely awful. My system (all Naim black boxes) currently sounds rather good.
Paul Rowlands
Mains, cables, stands, room acoustics, furniture, etc. all come into play.
It's the performance of the whole system that matters.
Naim can sound great, and also absolutely awful. My system (all Naim black boxes) currently sounds rather good.
Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 03 September 2003 by joe90
See, I was right.
Joe90
Joe90
Posted on: 04 September 2003 by domfjbrown
Mains spurs are all well and good for people who can afford to buy their own house...
I have to use a RA Silencer on my rig - without it in the NAIT sounds really crude, but using it doesn't appear to kill the music - if anything it's better, because the top end becomes less tizzy. I'd not go any further than this though - a proper mains spur when/if I ever buy somewhere is the way to go.
When the music's over turn out the lights
I have to use a RA Silencer on my rig - without it in the NAIT sounds really crude, but using it doesn't appear to kill the music - if anything it's better, because the top end becomes less tizzy. I'd not go any further than this though - a proper mains spur when/if I ever buy somewhere is the way to go.
When the music's over turn out the lights
Posted on: 04 September 2003 by Simon Perry
"After all, they put man on the moon; we struggle to get man to London Bridge."
A marvellous quote which I would like to nick and use elsewhere PR.
A marvellous quote which I would like to nick and use elsewhere PR.
Posted on: 05 September 2003 by andy c
pr,
very profound...
very profound...