French retirement protests
Posted by: Mike-B on 17 October 2010
It looks like the French are getting into the spirit of the Soixante Huitards (sixty eighters)
Seems they do not accept (again) the "equality" part of their revolution & need to be a little bit more equal than the rest of Europe in retirement.
I just googled retirement ages for EU & USA and found the existing French age of 60 with the option to start at 57 is the lowest in EU by some margin
Belgium 65
Denmark 65
France 60
Germany 67 !!!
Greece 65
Italy 65
Holland 65
Spain 65
Sweden 65
UK 65
USA 66
I bet we all feel so-o-o sorry for the poor French
Seems they do not accept (again) the "equality" part of their revolution & need to be a little bit more equal than the rest of Europe in retirement.
I just googled retirement ages for EU & USA and found the existing French age of 60 with the option to start at 57 is the lowest in EU by some margin
Belgium 65
Denmark 65
France 60
Germany 67 !!!
Greece 65
Italy 65
Holland 65
Spain 65
Sweden 65
UK 65
USA 66
I bet we all feel so-o-o sorry for the poor French
Posted on: 23 October 2010 by Hook
quote:Originally posted by naim_nymph:
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Never in the field of British politics have so many people been shafted by so few.
Naim_Nymph -
Thank you very much for posting your thoughts, and having the courage to wear your feelings on your sleeves. I could not agree with you more.
There seems to be a lot of parallels between UK and US politics. Substitute Republican for Torie and your posts would ring equally true.
It amazes me to think about how many working class Americans are going to vote Republican in a couple of weeks. Millions of gullible people will be tricked (through negative political adverising) into voting against their own best interests.
If I hear one more right winger say that all we need do is reduce taxes and leave the market alone so that the market can make things right, I think I'm going to puke.
Right on that right winger's shoes.
Hook
Posted on: 23 October 2010 by naim_nymph
quote:Originally posted by ghook2020:
Naim_Nymph -
Thank you very much for posting your thoughts, and having the courage to wear your feelings on your sleeves. I could not agree with you more.
Hook
Hello Hook, and thank you for saying so! : )
Yes, although I was very glad when Barack Obama won the Presidency, considering the obstacles, hostility, and opposition to his plans, Barack is achieving a lot for the good imo.quote:There seems to be a lot of parallels between UK and US politics. Substitute Republican for Torie and your posts would ring equally true.
We in the UK seriously need someone with 'Obama' calibre who could sort out and lead the Labour Party.
The 2010 UK election was a farce… and very unusual in that we got a coalition government that no one voted for with a trumped up manifesto that came along after it got into power. Democracy didn't play any part in it.
This was mainly caused by the Liberal Democrat Party disgraceing itself by breaking all their pledges and promises and forming a pact with the 'Dictatorship of Greed'.
So, the next election will be interesting in that the Lib-Dems should lose a lot of seats and become a very marginal indeed. This will leave a two party choice of right of centre politicians very similar to the arrangement in the US.
The right wing side always have the larger financial source to take over the television and newspaper companies, the majority of which indoctrinate the feeble minded with feel-good factor if they vote this way or that.quote:It amazes me to think about how many working class Americans are going to vote Republican in a couple of weeks. Millions of gullible people will be tricked (through negative political advertising) into voting against their own best interests.
However, I always enjoy listening to Barack Obama because he is forthright in how he talks, and he never comes out with any cheesy remarks such as - “We’re all in this together!” as spoken by multi-millionares of the Tory government.
(Although they are right we’re all in this together: They’re getting richer by robbing us!)
best regards
Debbie
Posted on: 24 October 2010 by Mick P
Debbie / Hook
You two are soooooo 1970's.
Mick
You two are soooooo 1970's.
Mick
Posted on: 24 October 2010 by Hook
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Debbie / Hook
You two are soooooo 1970's.
Mick
Hi Mick -
Could not agree more.........that our countries took a wrong turn in the Reagan/Thatcher years that followed.
(Left) Hook
Posted on: 24 October 2010 by naim_nymph
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by Mick P
Chaps
The news about the un means tested, flat rate pension of around £140.00 pw is certainly good but really we should be aiming for an absolute minimum of £300 per week per pensioner, even if that means pushing up contributions.
This new rate will supposedly be introduced in 2015 and by that time the OAP in Spain, which is a PIG economy is estimated at £250 pw.
The current rules are needlessly complex, they deter lots of elderly people from claiming what is theirs and it just seems to keep a load of public servants in a job.
This at least is one good bit of news.
Regards
Mick
The news about the un means tested, flat rate pension of around £140.00 pw is certainly good but really we should be aiming for an absolute minimum of £300 per week per pensioner, even if that means pushing up contributions.
This new rate will supposedly be introduced in 2015 and by that time the OAP in Spain, which is a PIG economy is estimated at £250 pw.
The current rules are needlessly complex, they deter lots of elderly people from claiming what is theirs and it just seems to keep a load of public servants in a job.
This at least is one good bit of news.
Regards
Mick