technical question

Posted by: davidf on 28 December 2003

my brother-in-law has a problem. He has an Adcom amp/preamp (the amp is a giant thing, like 200 watts/channel). These are driving medium sized tannoy speakers. About 2 weeks ago, one of the tannoys failed, smelling awful as it blew. He was told that the woofer blew by a local repairman. In these speakers, the tweeter sits in the middle of the woofer. So, 2 weeks later while using his single remaining speaker, the same thing happened to the other speaker. It began to smell and then the sound faded away. Now I imagine that this means that the problem is the amp. Just to note, while I was there during the failing of the second speaker, we were listening at fairly low levels. Also, there were no pops or exploding sounds, just the fading away of the music plus that terrible smell. What is wrong here? Where does the problem lie? thanks in advance, david.
Posted on: 28 December 2003 by Paul Ranson
A loss of DC stability could do this, 0 Hz isn't good for a speaker.

IIRC Adcom are DC coupled on their inputs with a servo to maintain no DC on the output. That's where I'd start looking.

Paul
Posted on: 28 December 2003 by davidf
thanks, paul. His amp is about 5 years old. He has no desire to spend any money. Is this something that is likely to be expensive to repair? Also, would running one speaker alone have contributed to the problem? thanks, david.
Posted on: 28 December 2003 by prowla
If I thought my amp was going to deliver 200W DC to my speakers, I would bin it!
Speaker coils only give resistance (impedance) to AC current.
DC will lead to something frying.

Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 28 December 2003 by Andrew L. Weekes
quote:
If I thought my amp was going to deliver 200W DC to my speakers, I would bin it!



Please can you throw your 250 my way then, rather than bin it Wink

Andy.
Posted on: 28 December 2003 by prowla
erm - that's 200W DC sustained, of course!

Paul Rowlands
Posted on: 29 December 2003 by London Lad
IIRC Tannoy dual concentrics in the ported cabinets are a very sensitive / efficient loudspeakers. Maybe he has just feed them too much power?

Graham.

Not a lad any longer and not from London!
Posted on: 29 December 2003 by Andrew L. Weekes
quote:
erm - that's 200W DC sustained, of course!


My point was the 250 is just as capable of doing the same as any other amp here, a fault could produce DC at the output.

Andy.
Posted on: 29 December 2003 by NaimDropper
There are many possible reasons for this, from an outright amp failure to preamp problem to a source problem to a serious problem with installation... But it's very unlikey that equipment support or mains could cause this!!!
And rectifying it (pun intended) doesn't necessarily call for an equipment upgrade!
I'd get that amp to the doctor for some analysis, and prepare your relative for some repair bills.
And, of course, the speakers need to be repaired or replaced. This is by no means a 0-cost hobby, stuff breaks (even good stuff, see the "250 went Kaboom" thread) and begs money to be lavished on it.
David
Posted on: 29 December 2003 by davidf
thanks to all for your input. This story makes me especially glad that I have Naim! david