R.I.P. in The U.K.
Posted by: JamieWednesday on 08 April 2010
Malcolm McLaren's dead then.
Posted on: 08 April 2010 by Klout10
I've just heard about it, cancer they say...
Sad, sad news...
Regards,
Michel
Sad, sad news...
Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 08 April 2010 by Kevin-W
I don't wish to diminish the sorrow of his family and friends, but Mclaren was a scumbag scam merchant who tried to claim credit for other people's work and creativity.
As a manager he was an old-fashioned rip-off merchant (who despised the bands he managed) and an effete bourgeois full of pathetic little scams. If things got a bit out of his control - as they did after the Bill Grundy incident or during the Pistols' Jubilee boat trip - he'd get into a mad flap like some panicky old woman.
He never had the guts or decency to admit what his real role in punk (ie marginal) was.
That said, RIP. It's never good when someone dies.
As a manager he was an old-fashioned rip-off merchant (who despised the bands he managed) and an effete bourgeois full of pathetic little scams. If things got a bit out of his control - as they did after the Bill Grundy incident or during the Pistols' Jubilee boat trip - he'd get into a mad flap like some panicky old woman.
He never had the guts or decency to admit what his real role in punk (ie marginal) was.
That said, RIP. It's never good when someone dies.
Posted on: 08 April 2010 by mrflange
Your definately right about one thing..............Mclaren shit himself after the Grundy incident!!!I was told that by one of the girls called Debbie who used to knock about with them!quote:Originally posted by Kevin-W:
I don't wish to diminish the sorrow of his family and friends, but Mclaren was a scumbag scam merchant who tried to claim credit for other people's work and creativity.
As a manager he was an old-fashioned rip-off merchant (who despised the bands he managed) and an effete bourgeois full of pathetic little scams. If things got a bit out of his control - as they did after the Bill Grundy incident or during the Pistols' Jubilee boat trip - he'd get into a mad flap like some panicky old woman.
He never had the guts or decency to admit what his real role in punk (ie marginal) was.
That said, RIP. It's never good when someone dies.
Posted on: 08 April 2010 by BigH47
Sad for any death, but he was always a con man to me. Produced shit music, can't comment about his clothes. Bollocks sums it up really.
RIP Malcolm.
RIP Malcolm.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by MilesSmiles
RIP Malcolm.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by Mike Dudley
The passing of a hero.
Who now will fill the pompous with terror, outrage the establishment and stamp on the dead hand of complacent English conformity?
So long, Malcolm.
Give 'em hell.
*gobs*
Who now will fill the pompous with terror, outrage the establishment and stamp on the dead hand of complacent English conformity?
So long, Malcolm.
Give 'em hell.
*gobs*Posted on: 09 April 2010 by Bob McC
Some fool on BBC radio this morning was comparing today's dreadful manufactured girls bands and the days when real music was around - punk!!!!
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by BigH47
For those of a certain age punk = junk.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by 151
he was a nasty piece of work by all accounts but then if not for him we wouldnt have had never mind the bollocks which was a breath of fresh air at the time, big up for that.
RIP Malcolm
RIP Malcolm
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by mongo
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
For those of a certain age punk = junk.
Lo Big H,
For those of a certain (different) age, Punk = joy (and growing up)
A megablast of Pretty Vacant even now can inject a quick shot of youthful hormone straight to the brain and balls.
Top Class.
As for the man being a con artist?
Well as Munch points out, he was at least much less of of a sickening, saccharine vomit bucket than Cowell, Walsh, Waterman et al.
RIP.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by BigH47
quote:Well as Munch points out, he was at least much less of of a sickening, saccharine vomit bucket than Cowell, Walsh, Waterman et al.
Hardly a glowing endorsement, I have one more:-
One man's breath of fresh air is another's halitosis!
I quite like the Stranglers and some Clash from that era, but never thought of the Pistols as any more than a bunch of noisemakers.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by mongo
Not an endorsement BigH, simply pointing out that there are more objectionable creatures than Malcolm M in the music business.
Had I been a teenager in the late sixties I no doubt would have been a prog/rock chap.
As it is the Stranglers, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Banshees, Gen'X and such others as I've forgotten were my testosterone age companions.
Malcolm M was a part of all this. Hence my fond recollections.
Paul.
Had I been a teenager in the late sixties I no doubt would have been a prog/rock chap.
As it is the Stranglers, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Banshees, Gen'X and such others as I've forgotten were my testosterone age companions.
Malcolm M was a part of all this. Hence my fond recollections.
Paul.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by 151
and a great time it was,sorry for those who missed it or didnt get it 
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by abbydog
quote:sorry for those who missed it or didnt get it
Do you enjoy your punk albums on your Naim system, then?
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by 151
OH yes.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by tonym
I'm with Mr BigH on this. Much as I tried to get into it, punk was just an 'orrible racket to me...
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
For those of a certain age punk = junk.
For those of a certain age punk = wonderful breath of fresh air.
The days of 30-minute Yes tracks and the worst excesses of Prog...
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by 151
pretty,pretty vacant da da de da. i dont wana holiday in the sun da de da da.god save the queen we mean it man da da da da.oh sorry i didnt know anyone was listening,those were the days.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by winkyincanada
MM was at least honest in his dishonesty. He never claimed to be doing anything other than exploiting others. We knew he was screwing with us, and we didn't care. Contrast this with so-called "celebrities" like Winfrey who profits from an illusion of care and do-gooding. MM was a genius IMHO.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by mrflange
try submission i think it was their best one,quote:Originally posted by 151:
pretty,pretty vacant da da de da. i dont wana holiday in the sun da de da da.god save the queen we mean it man da da da da.oh sorry i didnt know anyone was listening,those were the days.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by Roddy
Malcolm McLaren made a good album called Paris, a kind of jazzy thing it was. I think I may put it on later in his honour. I wasnt a fan but hey 'buffalo girls go round the outside' is still etched in memory so he was connecting somewhere.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by Roddy
quote:MM was at least honest in his dishonesty. He never claimed to be doing anything other than exploiting others. We knew he was screwing with us, and we didn't care. Contrast this with so-called "celebrities" like Winfrey who profits from an illusion of care and do-gooding. MM was a genius IMHO.
I agree with this. His the veracity of his falseness can hardly be questioned. He said 'I am screwing you and you know it' but if we knew it; then could he have been? Anyway RIP Malcolm.
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by JamieWednesday
Try this through the naim...
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by 151
what kind of music is it?
Posted on: 09 April 2010 by JamieWednesday
Not what you'd expect - hit and miss in parts but good through the Hi-Fi