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Reto,

You are correct. If timing is accurate, then pace will be accurate too. Of course you can have everything sounding sychronised, but the overall pace sloooowed down - however the overall timing would be wrong.

For me, the most important aspect of music reproduction is the synchronisation between all musicians. You can classify this as "comparing and contrasting the PACE of each musician with their fellow musicians". Just as a bad performance has a lethargic musician, a bad system will portray one or more musicians as lethargic.

Also, a common fault is to confuse a speedy attack (such as snare drums) as good timing. Well if the sharp snap-crack of that snare drum occurs at the wrong place, then the moment is spoilt.

What can affect timing? Well momentary unsteadiness in the powersupply for one. Non-linear phase is another big one (you don't want the high-hats lagging behind the bass drum). A susceptability to RF and a lack of temperature stability can also affect things. Passive radiators in the room are also bad news.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
Linn Binn Sinner

Thanks,

Then I conclude that if a musician plays solo and with the "right" pace, timing must be correct automatically. Problems occur when a band or an orchestra is playing... Everbody is playing with the right pace but not at the right
time (in this case we have a timing problem). If every musician start at the exact same moment playing a song and nobody plays too fast or too slow then there will never be a timing problem. Of course the band may play a piece slow or fast but this is more a matter of interpretation (and therefore not necessary wrong).

As a non-musician I'm asking me what is more difficult for a musician or a hifi:

Playing together or playing at the right speed.

Reto
Reto

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Then I conclude that if a musician plays solo and with the "right" pace

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What about chord changes and single note duration/emphasis?

It's that kind of timing that makes the difference of whether or not the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
Linn Binn Sinner

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As a non-musician I'm asking me what is more difficult for a musician or a hifi:

Playing together or playing at the right speed.

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I would reckon that playing together is the more difficult, without a doubt. A musician with a head for rhythm (not all of them do!) can play his own instrument at the right speed AND in time (i.e. following a time signature accurately), but might not be able to integrate with fellow musicians. Analogy: dancing yourself / with a group of other dancers?

Music in terms of time consists of speed (broadly beats per minute), timing to the beat (e.g. 4/4 = 4 beats per bar, so each crotchet note must be on a beat, and fractions or multiples at exact proportions of that beat), emphasis on normally the first beat of each bar, etc. Then there's syncopation which means emphasis on a beat other than the first, and subtle timing changes, and so it goes on...

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Can I know, what loudspeakers it is all of you use?

thanks

vik

Hi vik,

mine are ProAc's Response 2.5.

Reto