Emperors New Clothes

I agree its a case of its new, its great. Better than those "dad rock" numbers of yesteryear. In reality is much the same if not worse than that what went before. I feel the same about a lot of the "new" music some good stuff there but it don't replace earlier stuff. My mind is'nt sharp enough these days to tell my "boy" (21) where various riffs have come from, he usually tells me about LZ, Purple, AC/DC stealling a riff from whoever he is listening to at the moment.
BTW when he was making CD-Rs for the car most of the tracks are from my CDs and he was most disgruntled to find I had not got any method of recording to CD my vinyl collection. That must say something?

Regards

Howard

Woodface - I agree that White Stripes aren't much cop on CD. However, see them live, and they are electrifying. I do agree though that overall they are overrated.
Simon

While I am at it I feel I must kill another sacred cow! 'Dark side of the moon' would be a much better album without all the sound effects (which ultimately make it sound dated).

I've always preferred "Animals" to "DSOTM" myself.

Animals is the most underrated of Floyd albums (previous thread).

Before you move on, I would like to add my vote for the White Stripes. I wish I had borrowed it for a few days before buying it.

I would like to nominate Led Zeps "How the West Was Won". It's OK, but its not essential IMHO. The DVD is good though.

Oh...and let's not forget The Darkness, eh?!

And that album by Queen, what is it now?....oh yes...Everything!!!! They suck. Can't bear them. & don't get me started on Eddie Reader. Fairground Attraction? That has got to be the most naff name for any band ever in the history of the world. Fairground Attraction!!!...just think about it. Naff naff naff.
Rumours??

Calexico's a town in California.

Anyway, I'd like to nominate Super Furry Animals.

quote:

---

I would like to nominate Led Zeps "How the West Was Won". It's OK, but its not essential IMHO. The DVD is good though.

---

I agree. One of my big dissapointments of last year, but this was because after the superb DVD (which I got first) I was expecting so much.

quote:

---

And that album by Queen, what is it now?....oh yes...Everything!!!! They suck

---

Sorry you're wrong, clearly your ears are not workign correctly you should get them replaced immediately!!

Anyway this doesn't address the question as I don't think I've ever read a good review of a Queen album (all music journo's have their heads too far up their own arses to admit to liking them).


Overrated Albums:
Ry Cooder - Paris Texas,
A good main theme but that's about all the album has to offer.

Grateful Dead - Live Dead
Aimless drivel

Pixies - Doolittle
An average, at best, garage rock album, You'd have though they had invented rock by the reviews.



There's loads more that I'll think of in a minute.

[This message was edited by greeny on THURSDAY 15 January 2004 at 18:30.]

Ludwig,
Super Furry Animals last album, Phantom Power, is wonderful. One of my top 20 of the year. I know, once you see them live in February at the Showbox (you are going aren't you, all the hipster boys and girls will be there), you will sing a new song.

maxvonsadludwigthinkssuperfurryanimalsareoverrated

I nominate the rapture *yawn*

Anything by Chris De Burgh - end of story.

quote:

---

Not only do they suck, but they blow. And on top of that, they're shite.

---

Now you're just both wrong. I suggest instead you limit your listening to the piece featured on breakfast news this morning, 4minutes 33 seconds of silence, as clearly you don't appreciate good music.

I appreciate their, ...no....Freddie's showmanship and his ability to work an audience, but I just don't like the music at all - not one little bit. In fact I just have to dash to the radio to turn them off I dislike their music so much.
So Greeny, what other horrors do you listen to, eh?! Elton John? Eurithmics?

quote:

---

Originally posted by woodface:
While I am at it I feel I must kill another sacred cow! 'Dark side of the moon' would be a much better album without all the sound effects (which ultimately make it sound dated).

---

Here´s another sacred cow:

Doors. Any album. Totally overrated.
Now I´d better seek shelter.....

Gunnar

Greeny, go stand in a corner and consider what you have said. Doolittle is a great albumn that still stands up. The Pixies may not have invented rock but they did pretty much invent 'grunge' albeit theres was the more subtle/interesting strain. I totally agree about the Doors; a perfect example of what happens when an average pop band gets above themselves! Lets face it rhyming the 'end' with 'friend' is hardly high art.

Well said Woodface. Greeny, you are talking out of your behind about Doolittle. Not only does it still stand up, it rules.
Simon

quote:

---

Doolittle is a great albumn that still stands up. The Pixies may not have invented rock but they did pretty much invent 'grunge'

---

Don't get me wrong, I think Doolittle is an OK album, but it's the inventing Grunge bit that is so often (along with Nivana) attributed to them that I detest. They were one of dozens of groups doing a similar thing at the same time.

In fact band like: Husker DU, The Replacements, Meat Puppets, Dinosaur jr, Throwing Muses, REM, Jesus and Mary Chain, Spacemen 3 all had key works out before the Pixies, most of which you could quite comfortably call grunge IMO.

Greeny, this is the Emperor's new clothes thread, not the what's-the-most-barking-mad- opinions-can-I-express thread!
To be serious a minute, I love a lot of the other bands you have listed, but I really think Doolittle is more than just an OK album. And I agree that they didn't invent Grunge, but they were incredibly infuential in delivering the whole quiet / loud / quiet / really loud pattern that a lot of indie rock now uses.
Simon

Doolittle was released in '89, it heavilly influenced 'Nevermind' by Nirvana so was instrumental in the grunge movement. I appreciate that saying they invented it is a bit strong but their influence is massive. Greeny obviously has a degree of taste but suffers a massive blindspot with the Pixies! I also think Bosa Nova is a very underated album also.

Poor Greeny...I'm beginning to feel sympathetic. Its great that we all love such diverse stuff really. It would be a sad world if we all liked the same.....But I'm with Gunnar on The Doors - total poo. Pixies rule. Radiohead naff (90's Pink Floyd).
Hey..Isn't Sgt Pepper supposed to be the greatest ablum ever made?? It's good for it's day, but is it that good. ie. is it as good as Abbey Road or the White album?

Never ever understood all the fuss about Pet Sounds. I have it and like Good Vibrations, but the rest is awful.
(heads down & run away)

Yep Bossa Nova is great too. Basically, the Pixies rock.
Simon

No pepper´s not the best IMO. It feels like it´s just a long tradition to nominate it to that everytime one of those lists come up.

Anyone remembers Oasis today? They surely got the press and the public. Compare to the Pixies, they should have got all that. Great band but not the right looks.

Now Morrison had the looks but that´s just about all there was.

Gunnar

Yeah..Oasis were great for the first two albums

4.33
Absolute bollocks. Could do better meself!

No one´s mentioned Eagles yet.....

Gunnar